Birth by Sleep keyblade...Broken??!!?!?

In the BBS trailer we see Ven get owned by Master Xehanort and finally thrown off the cliff Terra, Aqua and Ven were fighting on. As he falls, his keyblade breaks...what do u suppose THAT means? Ima throw a theory in here, but it ties in with BBS i swear. I think that keychains represent the memories of certain people and a keyblade master obtains a new keychain by having a strong memory of that person. For example, you get Oathkeeper from kairi in kh1, after she gives sora a charm and you get Oblivion which by its pattern and how its all black seems to represent riku. ANYWAY if Ven's keyblade broke does that mean (based on my theory) he loses the memory of whoever it was formed by? Secondly since it seems like his main keyblade (his very first one) does that mean he loses the power to use any keyblade/keychain in general?

 

soul899er, BE NICE!!! wtf u only have 7 posts so u should even call anyone a noob either

and BACK ON TOPIC!!

i cried when Ven was frozen

and i cried for his keyblade too T.T terrible

 

Says the noob with 7 posts and no rep

I think your theory is good but i doubt it is true but im glad someone is trying to figure BBS out ^____^

 

I was thought that it broke because he was frozen sort of along with the blade. For some weird reason, I think that Ven may start off with the kingdom key and then get the other one that broke. Just something I'd put out there.

Wow now I feel like a noob...I only have 15 post

 

Interesting, but not ALL keys are based in memories of people, explain to me whos memories created Ultima, Fenrir and Kingdom Key..

 

Ultima might not count seeing that its just as real as the keyblade that ansem created out of the princess' hearts from kh1

Fenrir seems as though its Sora's memory of cloud or "clouds light" as tifa put it

the kingdom key seems to be a special keyblade, as we have seen it only used by sora and riku. but because of the keychain, i feel as though its a memory of mickey since sora's kingdom key and mickeys kingdom key have some sort of special bond.

 

First off, I don't think his keyblade shattering is anything special. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Metal is a brittle substance in its natural state, and becomes VERY VERY brittle if frozen. From how Ven and his keyblade look in the secret ending, Master Xehanort's blizzard spell appears to be the equivalent of dipping something in liquid nitrogen. Anything, legandary and magical or not, under temperatures that extreme will break when hitting something with the force of gravity.

Now, for the rest of your theory. It is possible that a keychain is created from strong memories of a person, but I have another theory on it. Several of the keychains seem to be normal physical objects attached to a chain that somehow affect the Keyblade: Ultima and Fenrir, for example. I believe that these keychains are just objects, nothing special. But, if that object came from a strong connection to a person or place, then it can have effect on the keyblade.

And it is possible that by breaking the keyblade, Ven lost his memory/connection to that person that gave him that keychain, except that, as people have been repeatedly pointing out, the three knights' keyblades have no keychains, and therefore do not apply to this theory. Also, the keyblade broke, not the keychain. I think it is very likely that the connection would be forever lost were the keychain broken. In that respect, very nice theory

 

I agree, except for one thing: Wouldn't Ven's armor have shattered into a million pieces, same as his Keyblade did, the second he hit the ground?

 

Ven never hit the ground, Aqua caught him.

Besides his helmet did hit the cliff and break off.

 

OK. Then wouldn't his armor have shattered into a million pieces as soon as Aqua caught him? He still fell, so as soon as his armor hit anything with any force, shouldn't it have shattered, just like his Keyblade did?

 

I think its because it isn't a true keyblade, like how Terra's doesn't have a keychain. Ven's or Aqua's keyblades don't either, therefore, they probably only the appearance of a keyblade while having the propreties of a regular sword.

 

No not necessarily because the force of his fall was absorbed after being caught. Take an egg being dropped from let's say.... the top of a counter. Regularly, if it hit the floor, it would bust open and spill it's contents but say someone caught it before it hit the ground (a hand being on the floor catching the egg). The hand essentially acts a cushion and the egg does not break.

And his armor was breaking as he fell. You could see chips of it coming off as he hit the many rocks on his descent down to Aqua.

Well if Terra's keyblade had the properties of a regular sword, then why in KH2 FM+ was it able to morph into about 3 shapes. 1 being a sword, two being something like a brass knuckle, and 3 a hoverboard like object?

 

It's more than likely he is able to do that with his own powers, not of his keyblade's

 

But are you certain? There's no evidence that supports this. My theory is that the keyblades lacking a keychain are not set to a definite shape and therefore can change into what the user desires. Ever wonder why the keyblade takes a different form upon receiving another keychain? Maybe because all keyblades have the ability to shapeshift in a sense and when it is not bound to a keychain, it's ability to shapeshift is in it's most basic stage thus allowing it to become the said things I mentioned above.

 

i have only two things to say

1)I am not certain about my theory, and
2)you have a very interesting one

 

Yes, maybe the Keyblade is much more powerful than we know it is... and is only chained to limit its power in case it falls into the hands of the wrong user.

Terra's keyblade does certainly look likes its power is unleashed.

Does he have a keychain on it??

 

No it does not. The one he has in FM+ has no chain.

 

ohhh i c now. the only thing that i still wonder about and may correct you on is sure, the keyblade is made out of metal, but there is no such metal that can be summoned in a beam of light.. if ven's keychainless keyblade is broken does that affect the way he'll be able to summon it? and if he cant summon it...then what are the consequences for not being able to use a keychainless keyblade...?

and it seems that if what DesX says is true, ven might not be able to change his keyblade until hes thawed out which could be a problem... xD

 

Being able to summon it is part of the magical properties of the keyblade and its weilder - not the physical properties of the weapon itself. It like fire magic - there is nothing to ignite the fire, nor douse (sp?) it as part of the magic, yet while it exists, it still burns as a normal fire because it is fire.

You're second part is an interesting idea, though. Since the keyblade that was entrusted to him was destroyed, can he still summon a keyblade? I honestly have no answer.

 

Ohh, OK. I understand. I didn't see chips of armor breaking off when I saw it. Thank you.