Implemented Just a few plugins that may be worth looking into

Has this been forgotton about? Sorry to bother and such. But I quite like the auto pm idea..And the moods ;~;

 

Bumping~

I think that AutoPM should be instated. It would be faster to notify members of their posts vanishing into the great deletion road in the sky, not to mention that it seems easier for Staff to tell members what was wrong with their post instead of having to wait for a member to VM/PM them. I know we do have a limit on the number of PMs the Inbox could hold, but for those members who frequently get their posts deleted, it should serve as a lesson for them to learn what their post needs to be "post worthy". Just my two cents.

 

Canned replies: 0. AutoPM: 1.

Canned replies: 1. AutoPM: 2.

Canned replies: 2. AutoPM: 3.

Canned replies: 3. AutoPM: 4.

Canned replies: 4. AutoPM: 5.

Canned replies: 5. AutoPM: 6.

Canned replies: 6. AutoPM: 6.

Canned replies: 7. AutoPM: 7.

Canned replies: 8. AutoPM: 8.

Canned replies: 8. AutoPM: 9.

Canned replies: 8. AutoPM: 10.

And plus one to each for my initial post, bringing them to Canned replies: 9 and AutoPM: 11.

As of this post, there has been more support for AutoPM than canned replies.

How many people do you count as 'a lot'? Because to me, it seems as though there are a lot of people who'd like to be able to see what sort of edits and deletions are done to their posts. I know having AutoPM implemented would have saved me trouble this afternoon, when a post of mine got unjustly deleted (and later restored when I noticed).

 

bumping this do to my own request, I would like to have the name change plugin and the Autopm plugin.

 

Isn't the first quote +1 for AutoPM as well? >_>
I'm up for AutoPM too. With all this crazy post deleting, the least you could do is get us notified.

 

I shall place in my hand in support of the AutoPM plugin (though I indeed must again thank the staff for quite lovingly handing us the Canned Replies feature!) - as stated in a number of posts earlier, it shall at least permit a reduction of complaints from the community over the topic of post deletion - and indeed, our forum has held a rather odd history with the factor of the aforementioned. The system shall also encourage members, quite especially newer ones who may not know better, to step forward in higher quality posts and whatnot, increasing the overall quality of discussion within boards that are not simply a select few. Quite essentially, the AutoPM plugin may be quite beneficial for what may be considered a sort of "social infrastructure" for the forum, perhaps.

 

I am all for the Autp PM thingamajig that has been suggested. I mean, most of my posts don't get deleted, but if they did/when they do I'd like to know and I'd like to know which. If my post count drops by one post I'd naturally want to find out what post it was, I'd go looking for it checking all the recent threads I've posted in to see which one it was because things like that bother me. It'd be a nice feature I think and would save me some trouble and a couple of headaches.

 

This shows promise. Many times I have had a post deleted only to think that it simply did not go through, unto sending it in multiple times and finally getting warned for it. Not only do members need to notice when something is deleted, but they need to know that a deletion is why it is gone if they do notice it.

It has the potential to balance out both deletions and postings so that everyone is being held up to the same standard. Any kind of moderation log available to the public will help both parties if their aim is a fair ruling. You can be sure that deletions will be questioned if this gets implemented, but that is not a bad thing. No one is perfect. The rules will become more defined or more lenient as needed if this plugin is in effect. I can see no downside to implementing this feature, and many upsides. There is no reason not to do it.

Not needed; a waste of space.

This might be fun, but I can do without them as I have been.

Been done. Useful, but not overly so as of yet.

I don't like this much. Consider the name changes in Voxli. Delays will not help anything at all in this regard. It also gives the staff something to do; I would hate to take that away from them.

I don't know what this is, so no opinion on it.

Superfluous, but useful none the less. If it is a small code, I have nothing against it.

 

Would the AutoPM send a PM for every post?
My concern is that if someone gets more than just one or two posts deleted their inbox would get flooded with PMs.

 

I was thinking about that
and what if a thread was deleted and you had several posts in it would it send you messages about all of them or just the thread?

 

A valid concern. However an inbox can hold a lot of PMs, and it is easy to clear it out while saving all PMs to your hard drive. If it is a big problem, then the space for the inbox can always be increased down the line. They are simply posts, after all. I've done a bit of research, and it doesn't appear that increasing inbox size impacts negatively on the server, so that is always an option.

Additionally, if a person is spamming so much that their inbox is flooded, then it is necessary for them to be notified of it, so they can cease spamming. Often they do it without knowledge, and the staff cannot find the time to tell them. If they are getting so many of their posts deleted that they are forced to clear their inbox, then a major reform in posting habit is required, and having to press a couple of buttons to clear messages from that day is the least of their worries. The answer to the problem of a spamming member is not to let them run rampant, and have staff run after them, deleting their posts. To do that is akin to trying to mop up flowing water. They need to be notified, and more so if they are spamming to the point of their inbox flooding.

Furthermore, a person should value each post that they make enough that they'd be willing to receive one PM if it had been deleted. I, for one, am willing and eager to go through my subscribed threads if I see my post count drop to attempt to find where the offending post had been deleted from. We can see from similar responses in this thread that other members value their time and content in the same way, and are willing to go through the hassle of receiving a PM (or more) to find the truth. When it comes down to it, it's a small matter to delete a PM, while it takes considerably longer to type up a post.

Again I must ask though, how many people is 'a lot'? We clearly had enough to make Canned Replies worthwhile, and there are even more than that for AutoPM.

I don't know the answer to this, so I'm assuming a worst-case scenario of it PMing you for every post. Threads aren't often deleted. They're locked, but rarely deleted. It's why there are a lot of locked threads lying about the back pages of the forums. It's rare for an entire discussion thread to bite the dust. Also if a large thread is deleted, then it's important that you are informed. For example, a forum family I was in, which has thousands of posts, got accidentally deleted. I had to find a link to where it used to be from another post, and send it to an admin to get it restored. Again, deleting all PMs received in the last day is fairly easy. And that's assuming a worst-case scenario of it sending out a PM to everyone in the thread, which may not be the case.

 

+I don't really think the spamming is equal to the posts deleted.

 

well i say try it out if it works then great if it doesn't then we have our answer.

 

I would agree with this. We could easily remove the plugin like we're doing with the canned replies. This isn't a suggestion that would have lasting dammage if it isn't good. And truly this is a hard one for the staff to get behind since it doesn't apply to you, but it does matter to us.

 

I would imagine that for people using mobile devices to access the site would find it very difficult to clear their PM boxes that often. And I don't know if there is a cap to how many PMs can be stored overall (as in if it's finite or not), so that's more of an admin question.

When someone spams that much they are notified. And lol, we do tell them, 90% of the time it's noobs. I don't think spamming their inbox is really an effective way of telling someone they're doing something wrong, and is probably less intimidating to be told in one PM by a staff member than multiple identical PMs. Despite what you seem to think about this point, we do do our jobs.

For people that are that interested, why not just ask a staff member?

That I don't know either, but Canned is an optional feature for members to use, whereas AutoPM seems to apply to everyone on the site.

Threads are actually deleted fairly often, mostly in the RP section. Threads that haven't been posted in in 30 days are deleted, and that's something that's stated pretty clearly in the section's rules. Also by the description in the mod, it says that PMs are also sent out when a thread is locked, and that happens a lot too.

I dunno, personally I think it'd cause more spam (inbox wise) than just going to a staff member and asking them. We don't bite.

 

If threads are deleted then why do repeat threads in the code vault only get locked?
There are probably 100 kh2 request threads.

 

I'll be honest with you...I think most staff just leaves how the Code Vault is run to the coders, lol.

EDIT: lol hey gaiz
http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?110186-AutoPM-Trial-Run&p=3379393#post3379393

 

That's really something way off topic, wouldn't you rather make another thread, or PM
staff about it?

As for the AutoPM thing. It really shouldn't become a problem unless you're doing it wrong. I mean, the only instances where it may get flooded is on massive clean-ups, and even then, most of those barely delete posts of active members.

Moreover, I think it really gives more control to the members, since the member will undoubtedly care for their post, whereas staff may have other issues present in mind. That way the member can contact the staff member, rather than the other way around. I think they'll find this degree of control and management beneficial.

 

Indeed, the main reason for enabling this was completely sidestepped... Thank you, P, for your response to that.

 

I can count on one hand the number of people I know who use purely mobile devices. Usually the user has access to a computer to save their PMs. But this problem applies, whether autoPM is active or not. It's a problem that exists with people on mobile devices. Even then, they don't have to save the PMs, and as I can testify, it is extremely easy to clear your PMs on a mobile device, especially if you just hit the button to clear them all.

There may or may not be a cap to the max. But I'm certain it can be increased above what it is at now, as I've seen it done as such on other forums. In fact, there's a handy tutorial on how to increase it right here.

I have had a lot of my posts deleted over the years, and the only times I've been notified over them being deleted is when I'm friends with the staff member in question. Also, this is hardly a fair argument for you to make. Whenever the idea of notifications for deleted posts has been brought up in the past, it's been shot down with the argument "Too time consuming for staff", so it's already well established that it is not a practical solution to leave the notifications up to staff to do manually.

While ideally staff would send an individual PM out to each person, it's just that: an ideal. It may be possible in the larger cases of noobs, but it's completely impossible to do for the majority of the members on the boards, who only get a couple of their posts deleted. As I said, I've never been contacted except in a couple of cases with friends recently, and even then, it was over IM.

We don't deny that you do your jobs. We're well aware of it. It's one of the reasons we're pressing for this plugin. We know that you're doing your job, because our posts keep vanishing. We want to be able to keep track of where our content goes.

I do ask a staff member. I ask them if I figure out where the deleted post is. After all, it could be in a thread from weeks ago. Besides, it's not fair for me to trouble staff every time I think I see my post-count drop. You guys have better things to do than trawl through our histories. We can't simply ask the staffie who deleted the post, because we have no idea who did it.

Then there are also those cases when posts are hard deleted for some unfathomable reason. In that case, no staff can tell whether there was a post there or not. (Even if the member finds the exact location of the post and points a staff member towards it.)

So far the only dissenters are the people who do the deleting and are able to see deleted posts. Even

Good news.

Exclude RP Arena. Problem solved.

It'd be good to actually read the thread of the plugin in question. It says that the notifications can be sent out for all sorts of things, and you can turn it on or off for each option.

So, Wolfie, can I have a list of all my deleted posts (including those pesky hard-deleted posts) for the last month please?