Film Jurassic World (Jurassic Park 4)

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  1. Hayabusa Venomous

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    1) Of course animatronics seem more real than CG...IT'S ACTUALLY REAL. And they did use animatronics quite a bit in Jurassic World. Most obvious being the dying sauropod, but also including some Pteranadons
    2) This was explained in the film: the leader of the genetic engineering department was specifically instructed to focus more on cool and less on real, and says that actual dinosaurs would look different from the ones in the park.
    3) Dinosaurs never left the island of the first film. The only dinosaur that we know survived from the first film is the T-Rex in the finale, distinct by the scars it endured fighting the raptors.
    4) Yeah, that was just Rule of Cool there.
     
  2. burnitup Still the Best 1973

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    Huh. Just learned that there was going to be a scene that would mention Gray's (the little brother) autism but they left that out and decided he would just be a smart but odd kid. Which is upsetting for me as an autistic who felt his portrayal as an autistic was accurate and I actually related to his character, hell, that was basically me on screen. I mean, did they really need to drop the label? Why did they write a character with so many autistic traits and say he isn't autistic?
     
  3. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Probably the backlash that would occur from people seeing that a summer blockbuster tried to feature an autistic character in a good light, labeling it as sensationalist/manipulating or whatever.

    I'm neutral on the idea, but only because I haven't really seen autistic characters in film, at least whom I can remember.
     
  4. burnitup Still the Best 1973

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    Anyone who would say something like that is clearly an idiot who doesn't know what in the **** they are talking about.

    There are a few here and there. Some far more subtle than others and not a whole lot of them are accurate.
     
  5. Menos Grande Kingdom Keeper

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    1)Of course animatronics are more real because they are a "thing", but I was trying to say they looked more like I imagine dinosaurs and such.. and not every animatronic in real-like.
    2) I Know it was explained, but I would prefer they go to other direction (thus I didn't like).
    3) Well technically there weren't any dinosaurs escaping because Pteranodons aren't dinosaurs, and going further any "Dinosaurs" from the park are actually hybrids designed to look alike dinosaurs. But as they fly it was definitely possible for them to escape, and in the other movies it was stated that dinosaurs escaped for 3 more islands.


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    Other major problem I had, is that since the title came out (and the logical progression from the previous movies) I imagined a whole world taken back by the dinosaurs and we would have to get along with that, in previous entrances we've lost whole islands because we thought that we could control nature as "God", the natural progression would be lose our place in the world and fight back. So I was expecting terra nova, and get Jurassic park reboot:


    But it was my mistake to create expactations.


    And yet people are but-hurt because mad max is a "feminist agenda" movie, sometimes just living becomes a political statement. (I agree with you though)


    ps.: I loved how Wilson Fisk tried to take the raptors to Hell's Kitchen so that they could fix it ç.ç
     
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  6. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Yes, and that's exactly how people are when they don't try to understand film.

    1) I...don't understand your point now really. Like, I think there's a language barrier issue here or something? Sorry
    2) It's fine to not like it, but as you said, it was explained
    3) Ok, no, let's not get into the "they're not dinosaurs" thing. The term is simply to describe prehistoric reptilian animals. Pteranadons were never seen in the first Jurassic Park film. Jurassic World ignores Lost World and Jurassic Park III, meaning there is no Isla Sorna. Thus, in the film universe as it stands now, Jurassic World is the first appearance of those animals.
     
  7. Menos Grande Kingdom Keeper

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    It is possible, but I'll try to explain. Just because Animatronics "Dolls" are a thing (object from the real world) that doesn't necessarily means that they will look "real", and something CG can look realistic... I am finding the Dragon's from game of thrones more "real-like" than the dinosaurs from the movie (mainly the mosasaurus).
    3) I actually didn't knew that they dropped the continuity, but that is their own mess to fix, not to expect the viewer to know what is real and what is not.
     
  8. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Ah, so your issue is with the overall quality of the CG of Jurassic World? That's fine; I personally found the CG very impressive, more so than I have in recent films that I can recall.

    The issue with that part is that you really can't be a studio/business trying to promote a new entry of a series and actively dismiss the existence of other parts of that same series. If that makes sense. I basically see Jurassic World as part-reboot, part-sequel.
     
  9. burnitup Still the Best 1973

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    Honestly at best the dinosaurs would just mess around Costa Rica, as that's where the islands are near. The dinosaurs don't exactly have the population numbers to spread around the world without obvious mass cloning and human intervention. Not to mention some of them wouldn't be able to get off the islands, let alone cross the sea unaided.
    What? How is not wanting to be a sex slave baby maker for a post-Apocalyptic warlord considered a feminist agenda?
     
  10. Hayabusa Venomous

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    We're just saying how it is with so many people these days. I absolutely loved Fury Road.
     
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    Ditto that ^^

    I am sure that I wasn't imagining, the first idea for the movie would be a world scenario:

    Not to mention that it doesn't need to be a linear jump they could have gone 50 years + to the future, as the technology from the park are years away what we are used to. And finally the "Dinosaurs" from the Jurassic series always found a way to corrupt their original design because of the genetics changes they did to their genome (changing sex/fast grow/ skip the special diet), who knows maybe parthenogenesis is a thing for them now.
     
  12. burnitup Still the Best 1973

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    I honestly have thought up a whole hypothetical movie sequel to Jurassic World where dinosaurs start popping up all over the world, though that isn't the main focus.
     
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    Indominus > Spinosaurus.
     
  14. burnitup Still the Best 1973

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    That's because they actually made the effort of making the Indominus seem scary and powerful.