I've got nothing against voice actors

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  1. Hayabusa Venomous

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    CAN PEOPLE STOP SAYING THINGS I MEANT TO SAY BUT BETTER THAN I COULD SAY IT I LOOK SO BAD

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  3. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Alright, you're wrong. Now that we've got that out of the way, here's why.

    You're missing the point of the job market example. The point of that was that self improvement via a specific means would be rewarded. I don't care if you can improve yourself other ways or just are lucky enough to make it some other way. The specific way you improve is immaterial so all the talking about jobs you did didn't touch my argument. You just looked into a forest and saw no trees. So you spent two paragraphs arguing with yourself and not me on that point.

    Whether it's learning to speak or learning to walk or learning to run a nuclear plant, everyone is improving from the day you're born and you only do so through realizing their failures and successes and following the successes. This is why all people can be grouped in this case, because all people have brains that work under the same principals. The whole point of my argument is that people are criticised when they are doing something incorrectly. You are doing something incorrectly, they are criticising you so that you may improve. Perfection doesn't have any bearing on improvement and no bearing on who is allowed to give out criticism. If it mattered that no one was perfect, you would still be unable to speak and type because every time you made a mistake you would refuse to be corrected because your parents and teachers aren't perfect.

    So in case you missed it, you're contradicting yourself again. You said first that I was not allowed to criticise your incorrect action because I'm not perfect. That indicates that you will not follow the directions of anyone who is not perfect. That indicates that you do not want to learn from anyone. That indicates that you do not wish to learn. Then you said you still want to learn.

    You need to be precise and accurate with your communication and cognizant of your true meaning if you want to make an argument. You clearly are not. People wouldn't have a problem with any of your points i you were able to argue them. That's why I'm still here talking to you. I'm trying to help you improve and show you the errors that you have been making. Maybe that's a little egotistical of me, maybe it's spot on. I don't know, I'm not perfect.
     
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    Calling Cowboy Bebop a Western is not entirely accurate. Sure, it has Western elements to it, but if anything it's more Sci-Fi than Western. From what I remember, the first episode is really about as "Western" as it gets, and even then it's still pretty damn cool. It's been a long time since I've seen the series, but if I remember correctly a good chunk of it is spent in space. The aesthetics of the universe in Cowboy Bebop are something akin to things like Star Wars (originals), Akira, and Evangelion. A run-down, dirty, old, universe that has seen its fair share of conflicts, i.e. awesome. In all honesty calling this a Western is almost an insult because you're not even attempting to see the show for what it really is.

    But lets be real and not pretend like anime is highbrow entertainment - this whole, "I only like what I like and that's that" facade is irrelevant in anime, if you've watched shows with guys shooting guns at each other in gorgeous 90s animation you have zero reason to not give this a chance. Still, if you just don't want to that's fine, but you're really missing out.
     
  5. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Oh goddammit. All this time I have been stumbling over my portobello and shiitake garden wondering why the only high I am getting is a meter into the air.
     
  6. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    Looks like I'll have to give up anime forever now. goodbye animu frands. You've all been kawaii-desu. /2cashual4u

    Honestly, as nice as Cowboy Bebop was---It's not worth all this dramatic fuzz. And this is coming from a guy who saw lots of anime back in the day. It's nice and I can see the appeal, and I loved the music and the character interactions, but that's that.

    One interesting thing about that peculiar anime is that the voices were very natural sounding for the most part. So if you're awake during Toonami, it might be worth it giving it an occasional watch.
     
  7. Hayabusa Venomous

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    As much unnecessary drama did occur in this thread, it helped bring out a lot of good points about discussing interests.

    You shouldn't force something that you personally enjoy down someone's mouth if they've already stated they don't want to try it. It's going to be a lot tougher to enjoy that thing on your own, simply because the people telling you to try it have already guaranteed a really good experience. I speak from personal experience with this one. You have to see it from the perspective of the person being recommended something too.

    On the other hand, you should have a better reason for not wanting to try something than simply the concept not appealing to you. Specifically, there's more to a good anime than simply being "western", "sci-fi", "violent", "slice of life", etc. The concept is only the icing: the plot and characters make up the core, the most important part of a well-written piece of fiction. Cowboy Bebop does this really well. Simply saying "I don't like something because it looks like this" without actual depthful explanation of why you dislike something doesn't improve your thought process: it only makes you lazier and more prone to avoid opinions that don't align with your preexisting thoughts.
     
  8. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Isn't this what people say of Firefly? It sounds like Firefly at this point, but an anime.

    Any rate, this thread is getting a bit pointless with the back and forth.
     
  9. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    As they say, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

    If people are shaming you into watching an anime, you don't need to. And that's okay no matter the reasoning. It's not like x or y peculiar anime is necessary for continued living. There'll be something that does appeal to you down the line.

    I'd be inclined to agree with you because you can find gems sometimes. And it's nice to expand. But not doing it is okay too when it comes to entertainment. Plus, I've heard the concepts of certain animes and that enough has deterred me from watching them (I'd name them but lol nope)
     
  10. Hayabusa Venomous

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    As I've said, it's perfectly ok to not watch something solely because it's concept doesn't appeal to you, but it isn't particularly a wise way to go about things, because you're pretty much judging a book by its cover.

    Whatevs though, people will like what they like, and avoid what they think they won't like.
     
  11. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Not really

    Firefly is legitimately a space western

    Cowboy Bebop is honestly more like a jazzy space action film spread out over twenty-some-odd episode-sized chunks
     
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    Do you GENUINELY believe that not expanding your horizons is a GOOD thing?
    Good thing meaning it's something you would recommend to other people
    I kind of doubt this to be honest.

    Also letting a fanbase ruin your experience of something before you've even experienced it is
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    If he really were to expand his horizons it should be beyond anime, realize there are good things that aren't anime, and not everything needs to be anime to be good.
     
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    I think that's besides the point
     
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