Is Obama Ready For Presidency?

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Is Barack Obama Ready to be President?

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  1. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    President Bush, in MY opinion, is a mook who is constantly contradicting himself. It figures he plan things to happen after he's out of office.
     
  2. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    I know he's not the brightest man ever, but I don't see too many contradictions. I see him changing his plans sometimes, but that does not count as contradiction.
     
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    Advent, changing your mind counts as contradicting your previous plan.
     
  4. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I think that Obama's plan to end tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas is a great idea! Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe that companies should not get billions of dollars in tax deductions for moving their operations overseas. Obama and Biden will also fight to ensure that public contracts are awarded to companies that are committed to American workers.
     
  5. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    i really dont think that Obama knows how difficult it would be to fight with those companies though. they actually have alot of control of some stuff in Washington (don't know the details but that's what Obama's campaign implies anyways)
     
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    Bills shot down by congress can always go into special election. I think it it went that far the people would support this plan of action.
     
  7. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    Of course they have a lot of control. Sure it's the "Great American Dream", everything is possible as long as you have the money. If they want something done, they just bribe a senator. The level of corruption in the American central government must be immense, the amount these companies get away with things.
    It is certainly a mammoth task that Obama takes on, that is, if he sticks to his promises. All politicians lie, and they all slag each other off. I personally believe that any election for a position of political power is choosing the lesser of the evils.

    As the good ole' saying goes "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
     
  8. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    i dont' think that the American government is THAT corrupt. i actually remember reading an article somewhere on the internet that other countries have much more corruption than the US. but i dont' really know either, it's kinda hard to prove corruption a lot of times.
     
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    I know there are a lot of other countries out there with higher levels of corruption, but those are like the African countries where the government is barely holding together. We are talking about the government of a world superpower (even if it is a waning one). A country that prides itself on freedom and fairness and yet has a corrupt central government?

    Anyone else sensing the irony here?
     
  10. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    I see what you're getting at, and you're definitely right to an extent, but I don't think the U.S. government is as corrupt as you say.

    No, contradicting would be putting out one statement, then putting out another statement on the same subject but inverse of the previous one without retracting the previous statement. What Bush did was realize that some of his plans were, quite obviously, bad, and he changed them in an attempt to make things better.
     
  11. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Well... I can't argue with that logic. But I can tell you that the general public has been tired of his incompetence for quite some time.
     
  12. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    I agree that he is prone to flip-flopping, but a lot of times when he changed his plans he or his administration realized that the plan would lead to a bad outcome, so overall his changes of plans were usually a necessary step.
     
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    I think the point is he shouldn't have been making the mistakes and bad plans in the first place. Prevention before cure thanks.
     
  14. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Well no one's perfect. You can't just expect him to not make any mistakes.
     
  15. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    No matter who our next president ends up being, he will be criticized regardless of how well he's doing. It's just part of politics. I just hope that if Obama wins, he will remember his promises.
     
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    That is a big part of why he is criticized. He promises a lot and people are unsure if he can deliver on them with his limited political experience.

    And I completely agree that no matter who the president is, they will be harshly criticized.
     
  17. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I am almost positive that is why he chose Biden as his running mate.
     
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    Experience is everything. It means quality to lead our country, but not quality to be well liked. I'm not putting my life in the hands of a idiot senator who doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

    People love Obama due to his non-'old' government' approach. That 'old' approach has lead the U.S. to the global supremecy we have now. Keep with the old, but fix our economy.
     
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    The failing economy of the US is the end product of the "old-style" of government. And I will say again, experience means nothing. You could work at a job for 20 years and still be mediocre. Meanwhile someone just starting could already be miles ahead.

    I personally think policies are more important. And really just someone to hold everything together. The main problem we have in the UK is that people are ganging up on Gordon Brown right at the time when they should be giving him their full support, whether they like him or not.
     
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    Like Bunterx said, it's not just experience.

    George Washington was one of the best presidents of all time and he came from a tobacco farm and a military background. He absolutely had no experience in politics but pulled a country together.

    Experience looks great on a resume, but it doesn't tell about the PERSON. Obama is showing open-mindedness about the economy with the best economic advisers in the world around him helping him through this campaign. He's getting people who he knows will get the job done.

    And about Palin being more "experienced" than Obama, I'd be surprised if she knew what a real crisis is. Alaska in the 1990 census, I couldn't find the 2000 one, is the 50TH STATE out of 51 states, including Washington D.C. for population. There's about 1 person per square mile in Alaska. That's like for me being a mayor in the middle of nowhere in back country and then running for Vice President or Governer. No offense to anyone.

    She doesn't have the experience or the knowledge to be Vice President. And McCain seems to be an ardent supporter of Bush. From his speeches and accusing Obama of being a terrorist.

    Obama has a cool head and really seems to know what he needs to do. I'm voting for him. Also, I think it's time for change, even if the economy hasn't been fully destroyed by Bush, there's too many coincidences for it not to be somewhat connected.
     
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