Is Anyone An Innocent?

I've heard a lot of people on here say 'Innocent Civillians shouldn't be hurt..' or 'Those poor innocents...' and it makes me think of the question.

Is anyone an Innocent? Are you an Innocent? Are your Freinds Innocents?

Because an innocent is someone who has done nothing 'wrong' and I emphasize 'NOTHING' but everyone has done something 'wrong' in their life.
What do you think?
And please try to answer the question aswell.

 

the only ones i can think of are unborn babys or ones that died during birth

 

I think it depends on the context for example, "Innocent civillians" I take to mean those who were not involved in that particular conflict, making them "Innocent" from that particular event.

Innocent in its general basicness? Hmm I don't think anyone can be fully "Innocent" using the definition you give, everybody makes mistakes and everyone screws up it's life ^^

My friends and me? Innocent? Not likely XD



I think innocence can be used in many ways, not just in terms of "doing things wrong" for example, people who have never had sex are classed as innocent, so using that definition then yes there are innocent people.


I realise this is a very roundabout way of me saying

Innocence needs a context to be properly understood ^^​

 

i know no innocents

 

Same here. Those that died before birth are the only true innocent. maybe babies, but sometimes they do wrong without actually knowing it and are too young to know right from wrong as it is.

 

Depends on what religion you have ^^ some faiths believe that even tiny little babies are not innocent, the whole original sin thing, if a baby isn't baptised some faiths believe the baby can't go to heaven because it still carries that original sin. IMO I thinks thats sad but hey.

Again showing that innocence can't be pinned down and defined perfectly.​

 

Well, law-wise I'm totally innocent.

I've done a few things 'wrong', like stealing candy when I was little, but nothing bad to the point where I'm completely guilty of murder or something.

 

Usually in time of war, 'innocents' is often grafted on the unarmed, the very young, the women, and the very old. Basically anyone out of uniform that is harmed.

This is very frowned upon in near almost every military branch I have studied, both past and present.

But outside of war, I don't think anyone aside from infants are innocents. Up until the age that they can differentiate right from wrong. Say a small child repeats a curse word it hears a parent say. They don't know it's wrong until the parent tells them otherwise.

 

Ok I will make it a little clearer.

I actually mean people who know what is 'Good and Evil', I do not believe babies would count because they would not understand 'Good and Evil'.

Though I can understand why people would talk about an innocent in that certain topic, but I would not agree that if you have ever had sex with someonethat you are an innocent since sex is not a bad thing, yet so man ypeople hate it. They wouldn't be alive if no-one had sex!

But I am getting off subject.

 

all i know im not innocent in a lot of ways heh ya..

 

Meh! I didn't say I AGREED with it ^^ I was just making the point XD


Ok in terms of "Good" and "Evil" then no there is no full innocent. No matter who you are, no matter how good you try to be the chances that you live a sin free perfect life is slim at best. People make mistakes and people make bad choices. It may not always be intentional but regardless the fault and sin is still there. So in this idea I think there can be no innocents :)

Whether or not that makes people evil is another matter though. I don't see life as evil and good ^^ I think innocence is great, but a little darkness maintains the balance, I'm not saying everyone should go mad and evil, but no-one can be perfect, likewise no one is fully evil. I believe in the balance ^^

(sorry I got a little off topic at the end :( )​

 

well, yea, there are DEFINITELY innocent people. it depends on the situation but no one is truly completely innocent. i'm SURE everyone did something bad. but with wars, they shouldn't kill anyone not involved with the war becuz they didnt' do anything.

 

i'm only innocent in a few ways

 

Well, I know Druds isn't one of them, MOTOF! :p

But seriously, Evilman, I hope your talking about a person in that is innocent from war?

 

Anyone can be innocent. Innocent implies a person is ignorant or naive of something, or did not commit a said atrocity at a time. There is no such thing as good or evil but to people that believe in such concepts. Therefore anyone can be ignorant or a situation, naive of words, etc. Children are seen as innocent because they do not know right from wrong. It has nothing to do with being pure in a way that states that a child will not do wrong. Anyone that has been around kids knows that even the youngest toddler might bite another kid's hand and they certainly didn't learn this from adults.

As for the 'innocence' being lost with sex...this is stupid too. Because some men wanted their women pure and untouched by other men, the term the woman is 'innocent' comes into play if she's a virgin. So somehow, she is tainted afterwards and no longer 'pure'. Innocent does NOT mean pure.

 

No, I don't think that anybody is truely innocent, apart from unborn or brand-new babies. And I mean brand new. Because, technically, everyone will see, hear, or think something that takes away that innocence. It probably occurs when you're very young, as well...so they're totally wrong when they refer to them as 'innocent bystanders.'

What they mean, I think, is that they were innocent from charge in that particular conflict...not innocent in general.

And, no, I'm not innocent. I'm alive.

 

That is an excellent view point ^^ I like that a lot :)​

 

No.

Probably by someone's early stages of life, their chances at becoming an "Innocent" have gone down the tube.

If someone's to be a pure innocent, they must have commited no crime, from murder to a simple white lie.

The chances of someone being an Innocent is very unlikely.

 

I used 'Good and Evil' as an example, many use innocent in 'Good and 'Evill.
And the part of biting, that is instinct for a child of that age, they use all their senses to understand objects, by tasting them. Most children do hurt oter out of revenge.

 

You've obviously never been around toddlers a lot. Some do bite to get things another kid has and such. As said, innocence doesn't mean you don't do wrong, unless you are going to use it synonymous with the word 'pure' which in the end goes with the 'good' and 'evil' ploy. Anyone to me can be innocent or guilty or whatever since innocence to me is a state of being at the time, implying someone is ignorant, naive of something, or not guilty of a deed that just transpired.

I see to many others though they use it as to say if you 'ever' did something you are no longer innocent. Also, some people believe the moment you pop out of the womb you can't be innocent. People change and grow and it is sad people feel that way. You can learn from mistakes and not repeat them.