Internet Tracking

it wasn't legal, hundreds of thousands of people will be checked on regularly and have no privacy at all on the Internet
OMG that sicks that we have no privacy where did u read that?!

 

The government doesn't have any right to invade our privacy...
If George Bush started to rummage through your drawers and cabinets, how would that make you feel?

 

But if they had compelling evidence against you to issue a warrant; you have no choice.

This 'invasion of privacy' isn't as random as some of you are saying. It happens after a long period of time from 'behind-the-scenes' investigation.

 

In an active investigation yes that is what happens. But the way in which I mean is where they passively invade yoru privacy. They target no-one in particular, they just scan over all of the traffic looking for so-called 'hot word'. If your information communicaiton is tagged and read. I would call that an invasion of privacy without a justifiable reason under law. I go back to the quote:

"Those who would give up a little liberty to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both"

 

By scanning and looking for a so-called word, they are targeting people in particular, that is, anyone who is found to possess files with this so-called 'hot word'. If local authorities decided they were going to scan traffic for '12yr old first time (add obscene actions here)' pictures or videos and your computer turned up, it shouldn't surprise anyone if they came to your door with a warrant saying your computer is under investigation because it came up in the search. There is no 'random' invasion of privacy in this aspect either.

Why do you think people rename important documents (incriminating or not)?

 

it's up for debate in the government. i read it online at some site for class, i can't recall the exact site tho, sry

 

I really dont see what there is to be worried about. The law isn't going to crack down on every single person who owns a computer and check if they have illegally downloaded music or videos.

If you just happen to publicly announce that you are doing something illegial, yes ,you will prolly become a target due to your own stupidity. So if you still think you're being tracked, relax. No police are coming to search your computer unless they have good reason to do so.

 

they can see more than you think......like the amount of data being sent and and received from your computer, to the type of file packets you're receiving, like gama files when you're playing an online game.

 

People who are trying to crack down on illegal pornography for example, will *only be able* to retrieve 'illegal pornography' if your computer comes up in the red zone from whatever 'search' is being used--and *sanctioned* by the way--at the time.

Information will be seen by authorities if it falls within the criteria for which they are searching; it's not like your entire computer is an open reservoir of information that will be seen by everyone (unless you're a victim of spyware/adware--which is a completely different issue). Pedophile investigators are not going to snoop into your social insurance, credit card transactions, etc without a warranted reason. Let's not forget that most legitimate websites (like online stores) encrypt and secure your credit card transactions when you're checking out your items.

 

that's a relief :) but if they DO find something concerning, it will be reported for obvious reasons

 

I'm fine with it. If it keeps me safe I'm happy. And I mean I don't care if people see what I was looking at. I mean I have nothing to hide from them.

 

But where would it stop? Would you be willing to let them see everything you buy? Everywhere you go? Again you may have nothing to hide but it is still a gross invasion of your privacy.

I again go back to my horribly overused quote:

"Those who would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"

 

Bunterx, please read the posts. You're dramatizing just how much the government actually gets to see. You're making this entire thing look like a futuristic movie where the government is watching how many spoonfuls of cereal you eat in the morning before you head to school/work, but that just isn't happening.

The government has strict access in terms of what exactly they get to see on your computer, and even then, these 'restricted' accesses only happen after it's warranted by the state/city, etc.

At this point, the current system of internet tracking is not a big deal.

 

he's right you know

also, in case anyone is wondering: there IS a legal/legitimate use of this TODAY. it's mostly used in comapnies to monitor their workers to make sure they arent' doing anything to hurt the company (and they get fired for looking at porn, lol). last year i worked at a company that we needed security clearance to get in (it wasn't the CIA or anything, it was just the building for the Sloman Shield) and i remember a girl getting fired because she was on AIM telling her friends what kind of work she was doing. that type of tracking IS legitimate.

just wanted to make clear that there ARE legitimate uses of it

 

I didn't say that these things happen, I asked if Roxma would be willing to let the things I mentioned happen. I was speaking hypothetically. The government (any government for that matter) may never do these things or may not even be able to. I was showing that letting a smallish thing slide can lead to bigger things happening.

 

meh, I honestly could not care less. Provided no one decides to come and take my computer, I am fine with people knowing what I do on the net. I don't look at dodgy stuff, so I really do not see the problem.

 

that a good point, the majority of people have nothing to hide tho

 

Do you have a source? I find that story about the woman hard to believe.

Information becomes more credible when you list a source. I find most of the information you present in the first paragraph incredibly unlikely. Provide a source and I'll believe you.

However, pretending for a moment that what you said was true, I find it as a violation of privacy. Things that never have been before are slowly but surely becoming watched by the government.

What privacy do we have now that is not integrated by government ears? Telephones are gone, and now internet as well? How soon will it be before our very own speech is monitored to help prevent "terrorists"?

If somebody is a terrorist, they're not going to go researching terrorism on the internet. That is ridiculous. Same as all laws passed to prevent "terrorism." Terrorists break laws anyway, so if you add a new one, they're not going to care if they have to break it.

I think the entire thing is unwise. Our personal information should not be probed.
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Well that just makes me sad... :(

 

What makes you sad? Why? I don't think anybody can tell what you're talking about.

Please try not to spam here with posts like this or else this thread will end up closed.
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