Birth by Sleep Interesting Theories

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by Who, Jul 4, 2008.

  1. Who Moogle Assistant

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    I have noticed a few things recently and I would like to know what you think of them.

    In KH2 Ansem reports that a person is made of a body, soul, and heart. This leads many people to believe there will be an enemy called the "Unsouls" or something. In KH1 the focus was on Heartless, hearts pulled away. In KH2 it was nobodies, bodies pulled away. Remember Riku's dark keyblade made from the princessess's "hearts"? When they came out of the keyblade they didn't look like the traditional KH hearts, but were gold and shiny orbs. As of right now, in BBS especially, the focus seems to be on Keyblades and the mysterious "Keyblade War". Maybe Keyblades are made of souls, and the fight shall be against other keyblade weilders.
    On that note, you know the third symbol on the diagram Roxas draws? Well, you can see it in the guide book. The third symbol is used for non-heartless/nobodies. Could it designate souls?

    In Kingdom Hearts, I've noticed that people's eyes turn yellow when they give into the darkness, just like a heartless (a heart that gave in). When Xehanort's Heartless possessed Riku, I'm pretty sure that Riku's eyes turned green instead of blue. (Blue+Yellow=Green) Also, remember how Riku totally gave into the darkness after his first fight with Roxas? His eyes turned yellow, reminding him of the darkness every time he saw himself. That's why he wore a blindfold. So, in Birth By Sleep when Master Xehanort opens Kingdom Hearts in the sky, and Ven is frozen and everything seems lost, Terra's eyes turn yellow. Maybe he used darkness as a last resort to win.

    It might not be important, but there were used pods in DiZ's basement.

    You know how Xigbar talks about the other keyblade users? I bet he's in Birth By Sleep somewhere even if it's just a cameo, maybe along with the other original six organization members.

    Maybe more later
     
  2. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Myself, I have already known about this. I posted it in another thread, but good theory anyway. I think they would be called Soulful or something, as my theory is that when the Nobodies die, all they leave behind is a soul, since they don't have a heart either.
     
  3. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    I've known all of this for ages.I Think that the name of the next enemy is Called an "Endless" because in the FM secret ending it repeats "heartless,endless,nobody".
     
  4. Fayt-Harkwind Where yo curly mustache at?

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    You've just gave me an Idea about how Ansem the wise might be in BBS, he could be a main charater in BBS seeing how it was 10 years before KH maybe he's someone of importance i have no idea who he is but anything is possible in this game series

    and i also once said something about the yellow eyes thing but they branded me as crazy lol (this wasn't on here btw)
     
  5. Arch Mana Knight

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    I've mentioned endless several times in a lot of threads...hehe...It could be Dis Souls(something like that). Either way the soul might be related to the next enemy we fight...or memories. I don't think Terra, Aqua, and Ven "won" that fight though(the one in the secret ending).
     
  6. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Do the Dis Souls dis people?

    Dis Soul: Yo mama so fat that I thought that she was a world herself!
    Sora: What the hell?

    And yes, it is "dis", not "diss", as "dis" is short for "disrespect".
     
  7. Cia (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*.✧*.✧

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    Sorry, Who. Your theory is old to me. I even pointed out how the third symbol was used for non-heatless/nobodies like the zombies in Pirates of the Caribbean a little after the ending was leaked. xD I feel so old remembering all this stuff.

    But the third symbol reminded me of the eye symbol that's on one of their keyblades in the ending. :/ But I forgot who's keyblade it was on. I think it was Terra's. If so, then I think that it's somehow tied with the chance of him using the power of darkness when his eyes turned yellow at the end. :/ In other words, I bet when he does use the power of darkness, the eye symbol allows him to use the keyblade.
     
  8. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Your second paragraph there. I once remember seeing someone post a thread that "Terra turns into the Xehanort we know in the normal Kingdom Hearts storyline". It is actually possible. They do have the same haircut (:p), Terra embraces the darkness, he may have used it too much, and was taken over by it. It is possible that the Xehanort we know is actually Terra, but he had taken the name Xehanort, as he did not remember anything else, except the person who destroyed everything he cared about; Master Xehanort.

    Oh yeah, and before someone says "Well, Zack has a similar haircut too", remember that Nomura said that FF characters wouldn't have a highly major role.
     
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    Actually, the third symbol Roxas draws is a crown like the one on Sora's necklace. Just thought I'd point that out.
     
  10. Cia (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*.✧*.✧

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    Lol, the old Terra-being-Xahanort-'cause-he-was-taken-over-by-darkness theory.

    xD Old.

    :/ And we don't know if he ever did get taken over by darkness. There could be another reason why they have similarities.


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    @DSK: :/ Are you sure? I remember seeing the scan of it, and it happened to be the same symbol used to categorize the non-heartless/nobodies in the game.
     
  11. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Yes, it is old, but it still is a theory. It is also plausible.

    We do not know if Terra does get taken over, all we know is that he embraces darkness, or something similar. Like Riku.


    It would be a huge twist if the enemies were actually controlled by a relative of Sora, or if Master Xehanort WAS a relative of Sora.
     
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    There are many "Third" symbols. The one in the KH2 guide(the one for nonheartless/nobodies), which is NOT an official symbol if I remember correctly. The crown that Roxas draws but is not a symbol for any enemies but could be a keyblader emblem. Aaaaaannnndd...the symbol found on the new enemies. It looks like an hourglass. There's even a thread about it...two actually(well one is specifically for the new symbol).
     
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    Yes, if you look closely at Namine's sketchbook, you can see all three symbols, that's how he knows what to draw.
     
  14. Cia (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*.✧*.✧

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    In the shape of an hour glass...

    Can anyone locate a picture of it?
     
  15. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    An hourglass? I don't think that would have anything to do with Souls. It would probably have something to do with Time. But I really doubt the new enemies would be based on Time.

    I found the symbol that is on the backs of the enemies in BBS:

    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/emmanuelmico/newsymbollowres.jpg

    Looks like a cross between trumpets, CoM cards, and a heart that is partly crossed.
     
  16. Cia (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*.✧*.✧

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    Exactly.

    And thanks for the symbol. I didn't know they found out what it looked like. And you beat me to it. I was looking at the picture before reading the rest of your post and I made a mental note to say how it looked like trumpets, CoM cards, and a heart that's partly crossed but now I don't need to do that. xD;

    But I also want a picture of this so-called "hour glass" third symbol. :/ I'm still looking for it.
     
  17. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    I don't really think there IS an Hourglass symbol. I'm searching everywhere.

    No. Still can't find one. I don't think it exists, or you may have mistaken it for another shape. The only other one I can find (besides the Soul one), is the crown.