Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'Debate Corner' started by Spitfire, May 7, 2007.

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  1. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    well.....i don't think it's a problem. while some of them CAN cause problems, the majority of them are just regular ppl.
     
  2. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    Yea buy Mexico, lets role play that why don't we, first off with the amount of debt that the country is in we can't afford to send money to a town that was just destroyed. Second, no country is going to willingly let their country be bought, honestly, if anything Mexico wants the state of California back, not to be part of America.

    We are upset because we have to live a little bit less comfortably. Yea thats it, but not for the reason that the school are being flooded with kids that speak only spanish, and that there are 45 children classroom size. I have to speak spanish at least once a day to talk to parents of kids I take care of.
     
  3. RoxasNoxas Hollow Bastion Committee

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    What do you mean? You workin' daycare?
     
  4. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    I work for the YMCA as an after school child care program. In which I need to speak in spanish to about 6 of my kids, and many other parents in spanish who do not speak english, or know very little of it.
     
  5. RoxasNoxas Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Cool! Good for you!
    My mom is a school librarian at an Elementary school.
    She knows of at least 10 children who can not speak any English at all.
     
  6. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    Uh...guys...>.>...<.<...o.o

    IT WAS A JOKE

    You really think I'd seriously say that we should buy Mexico? I mean...we technically COULD, but buying that much land, then Americanizing it, the other superpowers of the world would see this as a threat.

    Also, what's so bad about that? Are you saying that those kids don't have a right to learn? That because they weren't born in this country they do not have the same rights that we do? They my not be citizens, but we're american damnit, we should be treating other countries and cultures with more respect, especially the people who LIVE HERE. This is why other countires hate us, because we're arrogant and think that because someone is from a different country, wether they be an American citizen or not, we automatically think of them as a foreigner who does not deserve the things we have, because they don't understand our culture, or plain out refuse to. You wanna know why they refuse to? Because the media make this country look like a bunch of glamorous idiots walking around in designer outfits and getting arrested every 2 minutes. But despite all this discrimination, they STILL want to come here, for a chance at a new life. They can't afford to be official about it, does that mean they're any less deserving?
     
  7. Bariyou Destiny Islands Resident

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    My view, which almost got me banned on another website.

    Illegal Immigration = WRONG. If it was right, it wouldn't be called ILLEGAL Immigration. This is mostly the States' fault, as getting to the testing facilities are more difficult than just border hopping. I think if we made it easier, such as provided transport, and all that, then we wouldn't have so much border-hopping as we do now a days. We also wouldn't have as much conflict, either.

    Also, immigration is fine with me, but those who intent to immigrate have to at least attempt the language. Now I'm not saying that they have to be fluent, hell I'm not even saying that they have to learn it at all! What I AM saying is that immigrants, if they refuse to learn the language, should lose their right to complain about not being able to understand people. Seriously, it's gotten to the point where America's language won't even be English anymore, because we're promoting the language to being Spanish instead.
    We need to find a middle ground.
    If you refuse to learn the language, then you also must refuse to complain. If you at least attempt it, then I'm cool with it all.

    Rights extend to American citizens, end of story. If you do not want to become an American citizen, then you do not get the rights of an American. Personally, I think this is right, but I don't think anyone should accept it. This sort of idea is a tough-love approach, which would get our point across. It would also nudge more immigrants to try and become proper citizens as well.

    Also, we complain about border control, and yet how many soldiers do we have in the state-guard, who do nothing? They don't leave the state they're in, go to boot camp every few months, and get paid like kings. Here's an idea, put them on border control, and at least let them earn their pay. :3
     
  8. Eclipse Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Alright before you guys say anything,realize that some of you are getting me F***ing pissed off.I didnt notice we had lots of racist in these forrums.And Cin has a good point at pointing that out.Its not only mexs you ****ing racist its anyone that wansnt borin in america.So everyone who is reffering this to only mexicans i swear to god.Btw you people who acuse mex of only being illegal immigrants.DID YOU KNOW MEXICANS WHERE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO BE ON AMERICA????YEA THATS WHAT I THOUGHT,LEARN YOUR DAMN HISTORY.BUT THE REASON THEY LOST IT IS BECAUSE THEY SOLD IT DO THIS PERSON FOR MONEY.

    PS:Moderators or Administrators i know i was being critical with my words.But this really upseted me since i myself is mexican.
     
  9. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    I am mexican as well. I am not intending to be racist, and I know that it sounds as such, as well as I am generalizing as well to my part of the country. I actually didn't intend for this get that out of hand. I don't know to much about other areas of immigration, so I kinda resorted to this one. But on another note I would like to know of other illegal immigration, and where, or if it is affecting the country.

    And to put this in again. I am not against people coming to america, Please by all means do it, that is what the country was established on. But do it legally or in the case that I know people will come here to work for a higher wage then back home. So by make a working visa easier to get in would insure that they can be here legally, and as well encourage them to come back.
     
  10. SquishyZ3ro Traverse Town Homebody

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    Just because you're mexican doesn't mean anything... Unless you hopped the border, or you/your parents came over here legally. Then I understand.

    Cin, I think they were directing their hate posts at me. I went into detail why buying Mexico would be a good thing. Lol... Also, why the hell are we agreeing so much? I think I need to change my point of view.

    But, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and stop while I'm ahead with this whole topic. xD I think I might get someone offended...
     
  11. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    My grandparents came in legally, to the U.S. plus my stepdad, came in from New Zealand, and my other grand parents came from poland, all leagally. So I have been very against coming to the U.S. or any country illegally.
     
  12. SquishyZ3ro Traverse Town Homebody

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    Fair enough. I assumed as much, but you know that some people just use their ethnicity to make arguments turn in their favor. ;P
     
  13. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    Yea stuff like that I find BS, because I have seen people use, that idk, I am trying to recall that some one said that he knew about hardships because of the holoucaust and he was jewish when he wasn't alive at the time.
     
  14. PuffinBoy415 Twilight Town Denizen

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    Send them back to Mexico/Canada/whereevertheycamefrom and stop stealing our jobs!
     
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    A bit harsh but in a way true. I don't like that people from other countries just come in illegally and think they are entitled to the same rights as legal Americans.
     
  16. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Imagine you are in one of families that is trying to support each other but their is trouble in your country, you would try to help your family anyway you can, they are stealing jobs but people need to survive like everyone else, like they always say 'Don't hate the player, hate the game'.
     
  17. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    This "taking our jobs" thing is getting a little annoying. It's just become an excuse for people to be lazy and then play the blame game. It's called getting off your arse and getting a job. Legal or not, immigrants are just people that want the same opportunites that everyone else is getting. It's kind of sad how Americans are being beaten on their home court for a job that some illegal immigrant is getting within weeks of being in the country, especially when some Americans have been trying hard to get that very same job. Yeah they may work for lower wages, but if anything it should make people appreciate what they alreay have.
     
  18. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    In the UK we have quite a large illegal (and legal) immigration problem. Apparantly we became too popular for our own good. Now the NHS is at breaking point, the jails are overflowing and there is a housing shortage. But, as White_Rook said, the jobs 'problem' isn't one to complain about. They work for less, are prepared to do jobs we aren't prepared to do and are often better skilled. I find it quite nice to think that people in other countries find the Uk so attractive.

    But one thing I can't stand is free-loaders. People who come over and rely on state benefits, especially when they come over illegally. Although I have the same problem with people who were born in the UK free-loading.........
     
  19. Dracoslythe Destiny Islands Resident

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    Um...you don't think the US goes through that crap?!?!? you know how many FRICKIN freeloaders we got here?!? A BAZILLION!?! BLAM BOMB BAMB!! we got dem all over!
     
  20. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    Yeah well we have the Welfare State which means free health care, free housing, unemployment benefits etc.
     
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