If your Gay You die?

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  1. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    Black Liberation. Puritans. You name them. Sissy religions who say God is different but in their favor. There's some good branches that are good and healthy that broke off from the Catholic trunk, but then again there's always those leaveless, sometimes fruitless, limbs.

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    My only other note is that I think everybody's starting to understand me now! ^^
     
  2. 007 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    what I don't get is WHY... why are they gay? I suspect something happened when they were a little kid, but can I read their minds?
     
  3. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Some people have had some stuff happened to them in the past, but there are some people who are just WIRED that way, you know?
     
  4. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    It is from birth. Proven from experimental evidence. This therefore meaning that it is not changeable and the person is stuck with it for the rest of their life. They can hide it obviously, but then they would be denying themselves true love.
     
  5. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    No...the quote above yours, Fearless, is a little more cheesy....>.>...No offense Bunt. But seriously, just because somebody thinks they might have been "born Gay" doesn't mean they can't find heterosexual "true love". Experiments? Peh. Instead of trying to bitcth to each other whether people are born Gay, they should be a bit more focused on why people are born with AIDs, ADD, ADHD, Cancer, and other such cure and to find their cures, eh? ADD & ADHD aren't as serious to find the cures, and modern science does have remedies, but a fair few of my friends wish there were remedies that didn't make them feel like a vegetable.

    Jeez, whatever happened to Prolife. yes, I know I've made snipes alot about abortion so far, but it's just something that everybody should be against, rather than Catholics being against Gays and Lesbians.

    INTERESTING TIDBIT!: It also used to be illegal in times of Kings in England to be Gay. Sort of varied from Rule to Rule of course, but the truth is, certain laws existed.

    Now then, regardless of sexual orientation, Catholic monks would very often protect said fugitives, Gay or not. The process was giveing them a block robe with a Golden cross on the shoulder. This meant they had sanctuary with the church. Now, back then, it's likely they did believe Homosexuality a disease of the brain, so it's likely that was another reason they gave Gays Sanctuary, but not in pity, but to cure I'm guessing. Y'know, Catholics helped tend to the sick and dying of the plauge in Europe and in other such catastrophes.
     
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    The point is, it proves all the idiots who think that counselling and electroshock therapy will turn someone straight wrong. It makes them shut up and **** off to be ignorant somewhere else.

    Also, comparing homosexuality to cancer is a bit harsh, don't you think?

    As well, homosexuality was only decriminalised in the UK 26 years ago, so you don't have to go that far back. And just because there were a few decent people in the church at the time means nothing, when you hear the venom being spread from all the other churches.
     
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    Excuse me. All the other churches? You've actually gone to ALL of them? Hmmm...doubtfully. Mine doesn't breath a word of the gay community; "Venom" or otherwise in nature.

    And I meant testing to see whether people are born Gay or not is a little less serious than Cancer. Perhaps you misunderstood. No harm done.

    And saying all Catholics are "ignorant" is a "bit harsh", don't you think? Do we not know certain things we should? No. But do all Gay people know all the answers to the Universe either? That wouldn't exactly make either very Ignorant.

    Agreements, anyone?
     
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    Man couldn't God come down a tidbit before the day of judgement....and explain Gay/lesbian love?
    XDD.

    we sometimes blame the bible.

    and unlike bama here...let me put this in simpler terms.

    Extremists are messed up.....both gay extremists and Fanatics.

    if gay love is such a normal thing.....then why go show it off at countless colorful parades.

    wich push the tolerance of Fanatics, wich in turn will gay bash even more.

    i believe that everyone , both gay's and Fanatics....should treat being gay as something normal.

    instead of going the extra mile to irritate the other.

    now, onto Fanatics....scum of the earth.

    Fanatics tend to change what the bible says to what they actually want to hear.(as stated by bama)

    and thus lead to destroy religions, much like the catholics did in the past.

    "In the name of God?"....thats definately questionable.

    in wich case i think Fanatics and extremists really are the problen...not gays.
     
  9. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    Amen, brother.

    And just let me put emphasis on "in the past." Seriously. It's no longer the Dark Ages. DID ANYBODY GET THE MEMO!? >>...<<...^^" I mean, yeah, there's all out wars between religions, but the Catholic church has had a decent row of Popes in the last century through now, so, whatever, righ'?

    And whadya mean: "unlike bama,....let me put this in simpler terms."? I put it pretty dang straight. >>....<<......No offense. *Wordplay. Read it over again if you didn't get it.*
     
  10. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    i know XD.

    but...you kinda go around with your funny remarks....i'm trying to simplify it so that everyone understands what the current subject is.
     
  11. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    Fun fact:

    Straight sex is flaunted 50x more then Gay sex ever is. In a world where lingerie commercials are on every half hour or so, sex scenes in nearly every Tv drama on tv, countless sex jokes on any comedy show, I think a parade is the least gays can do.

    Gays ARE here, they're asking for Equality. If that means dancing in the streets, I say go for it, it's not as bad as what can be found in plain view anywhere else.
     
  12. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    i'm sure that the straight sex does get exploited in the media, but you can't really ask for equality while you shove your displays onto untolerant people, now i'm not saying that the untolerant people are right.

    because in reality they should be tolerant of gays.

    but instead of taking a more civilized approach....we try to force equality....if you force something it might break....but i can't say its completely uneffective either.
     
  13. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    It's very hard to gain anything without aggression when the force you oppose is using aggression. It's been done, but Gays don't have as much ground as say, a Black person, or a Woman, asking for equal rights in a peaceful manner.

    I think another thing that's important to understand is whether or not Gay Pride parades are to start a fight, or just for pride. All parades are a show of pride, unity, and celebration amongst a group of people. Is that wrong?

    And don't say "they push the celebrations on people", I'm sure there's a rather large group of Americans who don't enjoy the Christmas Day parades, because they don't celebrate Christmas. Those people can turn the other cheek and not watch the Christmas Day parades. Heterosexuals who have hard times tolerating Homosexuals can just NOT pay attention to the Gay Pride parades. That doesn't see so hard. In this way, Homosexuality is "flaunted" in the same way Santa is.

    Btw the proper term is "intolerance", and "intolerant."
     
  14. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    well, youre right about that.

    but comparing the parades is a tad difficult considering you don't see santa half -naked and with some speedos XD.

    but seriously i undestand that, but i can't really condone with some things about it, but then again its their choice they can wear what they want, or dress how they want.


    but more people flaunt the gay parades, than christmas because more people like christmas than gay pride parades, in wich case it would lead to more people hating on it, because more people need to be tolerant, its truly a colaboration thing....one side would have to ultimately give in.


    hopefully in the future things can be more stable for homosexuals.

    btw, thanks i had forgotten about the tolerant thing, my english is getting rusty, since i'm not required to use it where i live.
     
  15. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    Always happy to help.

    And in a way, you're right. But as long as any one person dislikes something, that thing can be forced on them. I don't think it matters the amount of people that like it or hate it, if ANY person dislikes it, it's flaunted.
     
  16. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    that is completely true, but in a world where no one likes the same thing we use democracy to trample over others opinions.

    when 49% hate something
    and 51% do, that isnt exactly fair, but its still considered minority.

    but the world either gives up on foolish discrimination due to gay poblation being majority....or they trample over gays....its lamentable , but thats how it works.
     
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