If your Gay You die?

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  1. EraserRain Banned

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    Heres an interesting fact: In some parts of the world Homosexuality is a very severe crime. Outside of North America and South America on the other side of the world it appears you can get fined. Even put to jail for life for being gay. However the thing that really is interesting (to me anyways) is that at some parts of the world if your a homosexual you get the death Penalty.

    My opinion: I think this is very wrong. The law should just leave Homosexuals alone. Seriously...Pay a fine because your gay, Get to jail for life or even death? Good God! I dont know what the hell is with the government in Asia and Africa but that is a bit tadd too much. Its not a choice anymore since recent studies found out you become Homosexual, Bi-sexual or Heterosexual by Hormones so you have it when your born.

    The World really should leave Homosexuals alone. I know that it may be agianst religon but its how it is. Death penalty or life in prison is way too much. Is it because those parts of the world have a odd Government?I checked the map and it seems that places such as Afghanistan and such have these penaltys and i think China does too. Im not sure i have to check the map agian. Anyway Now this has changed my whole perspective on the war in Afghanistan. Maybe the war there is the right thing to do after all.

    Conclusion of my opinion: I think it is very wrong to have Homosexuals pay a fine or even get killed just because of their sexuality.

    Your Opinions on this?
     
  2. Juicy Chaser

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    Of course it's wrong and terrible that people face punishments or even death just because they are homosexual. I agree with you completely. But you shouldn't think so harshly on these other countries who abide by that law.. until recently, our own countries did not support homosexuality and though we did not punish anybody for it, it was not understood and to come out of the closet was pretty much suicide. (sorry if that sounds odd)

    I don't think it's because their governments are odd.. I think it's all down to religion, mostly. Which is one of the reasons I'll never be religious, because of the way people who arent straight are treated.

    I do agree with what you have said.. I just want to point one thing out.. you said "It's not a choice anymore since recent studies found out you become homosexual, bisexual or hetrosexual by hormones so you are born with it." That statement isn't true, they havent actually come to the conclusion that you are born with a "gay" gene. The argument with nature/nurture is still there.

    This whole thing is why many people keep their sexuality a secret for their entire lives.. which I personally think is horrible. People shouldn't be scared into admitted who they are.
     
  3. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    The reason it isn't excepted is because it goes against "Religion".
    I am surprised i'm able to hold in my flaming spirit because i have alot to say on things like this.Since it goes against "Religion" , countries who's laws are derived from religion(e.g, Saudi Arabia), see it as bad as murder or genecide.People see this as bad because they are taught that homosexuality is bad.Homosexuality is set in the womb by genes.How could you possibly kill something out of there hands.
     
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    Your statements are very clear however i see it is religon now. Some countrys take religon too seriously and i guess thats why it is Illegal at some places. But then why did god make certain People Homosexual or Bi-sexual?

    I think this is a very serious issue. People shouldnt be ashamed for who they are. I am Bi-sexual and im not ashamed of it, no. I let my peers know that im bi-sexual. But what could be so wrong about Homo-sexuality?
     
  5. Juicy Chaser

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    Are you religious?
    And good on you for not being ashamed about your sexuality.

    And Im trying very hard not to flame, but sometimes it's hard when we're discussing how, frankly, some aspects of religion disgust me.
     
  6. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    Quoted for truth.Are you religious Obsessed?
    Before someone asks me,no i am not i have my own ideaology and i'm proud to say it.
     
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    Your,right,some do think that.But I dont know.
     
  8. Juicy Chaser

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    No, im not religious. Im also restraining myself from flaming...again.
    So, what is your idealogy? (If you don't mind answering, and if you do, answer in simple english. lol) Im curious to know now :3
     
  9. EraserRain Banned

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    Ok lets not start flaming on what we said so far...

    anyways

    -How do you feel about This matter?
    -Do you think its right to have to pay charges face life in prison or die for being a homosexual?
    -Do you think that more countrys should have this law?
     
  10. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    well..i have alot of them but the main one is the one i made a thread about.The World in its truest form.Some of the stuff i said i don't believe any more but its main and essential points i believe in.Just look at my created threads in my profile,you'll find it.
     
  11. Juicy Chaser

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    Right on it :3


    edit - erm..gee..wow.. I'm a little confused..but that's an amazing outlook...
     
  12. Haseo Knight of Light

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    These laws sound like sh*t. It's not like you can just decide whether you like the same sex or not. These countries should get it through their thick skulls that there's absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality. Same to the religions that are against it.
     
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    Homophobia is actually a common thing here in America, but in eastern countries, its usually on steroids -_- Thing about America, Homosexuality has been freely exhibited here for several decades. Me being homosexual, i'd love to say to all those countries : "Leaves us the fuck alone!"
     
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    it's not right to punish people for this. it's just another form of discrimination.
     
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    These countries are non-secular meaning the church and state are not separate. They are in effect the same thing. So whatever goes or does not go for the church affects everyone in the country, regardless of their own religious views. This of course is completely immoral in itself and should really be banned.

    As for it being a death penalty, of course it is wrong. How can someone be put to death for being something they didn't choose? It sounds like a throw back to the witch hunting days when a single accusation from a respected member of the community could have someone put to death.

    Insane.
     
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    I don't feel like having a flame war, so I'm gonna shut up....
     
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    I don't think people should be fined, imprisoned or get the death penalty for being gay. It's like saying you should be ashamed, locked up or killed for having sexual desires, it's not something people can change. I understand how people can be uncomfortable with anything sexual, and that's why there are laws to suppress it. But I believe a law shouldn't go to as an extreme as to make a person feel bad about themselves. I think doesn't matter whether it's a choice or not. It's like saying it's okay to kill if you were born to do so, using Charles Whitman as an example. Gays are not crazy. Don't accept them cause they can't change, accept them for who they are. You shouldn't go around trying to change people in the first place.
     
  18. EraserRain Banned

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    I know its wrong an insane...
     
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    This is just wrong. Homosexual people are no less the same as any other human being so why are they flipping fuelling the fire to hatred towards gays? And why enforce RIDICULOUS rules to make Homo's look like the criminals? I support the Homosexuals, and always will no matter what!
     
  20. zexykupo Gummi Ship Junkie

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    So basically they kill someone just because they love someone. Oh thats really fair! Some christians say it's not right. I'm a christian, but I don't believe in that kind of crap. That would be God saying that you can't love someone!
    Why can't you love someone, with the same sex? Because 'man and woman are meant to be together?' It's what catholics say... But if you're in love, you can't really help it, can you?
     
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