Chain of Memories If Marluxia Won...

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  1. Repliku Chaser

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    Yes, Riku makes a comment, but that is also because of the Nobody that Marluxia was joined with. Also, technically the control of the Castle was dropped since Marluxia died. Marluxia was inside the thing. How about we give credit to where it goes...the creature Nobody that was like a Twilight Thorn.
     
  2. Marluxia went mano-a-mano with Sora as well the first time. The second time, was when you have to fight the replica Marluxia created, or rather, both. The difference between Vexen and this, is that what Vexen simply created was a puppet, not as strong, not meant to be strong, you saw how Repliku was thrown around half the time. It wasn't until he had drained Zexion of his energy that he was a real true threat. What Marluxia created was from himself, and had his essence, call it almost a machine that was controlled and powered by him as we could see, it didn't pop out of nowhere, it didn't come from air, and it wasn't a normal replica that had its own surge, and Sora and Riku sensed that, no matter how you look at it.

    And also, now that I think about it, who's to say that Sora and Riku weren't referring to Marluxia himself? When Sora mentioned that the power beyond that door is great, Marluxia still hadn't taken out the replica, that wasn't until Sora went in and they were about to battle. Hmm.

    He was not meant to be simply average.

    To make it short, the game presented it differently. Compared to the rest of the members in Castle Oblivion, the game enhanced and expanded to show what Marluxia is capable of and to be impressed, it was meant to make him that incredible of a figure, and it probably didn't work for you because I think what you want is more prove from the members saying it outright. Either way, that's the energy and power I was talking about, it might've not come from the members themselves, but it was severely implied in the game. That's the situation here. If the rest were just as tough, there was no other reason to make Marluxia appear like someone with much importance. But what favor with Xemnas? Xemnas wouldn't place someone who can be easily defeated by those who he placed under Marluxia in Castle Oblivion, or place someone who couldn't gain control, what would be the actual point of getting him instead of someone like Saïx and Xaldin then? Most of the members could have the right personality and completed missions succesfully, I'm sure Marluxia wasn't the only one there with that in his bag. Saïx had the right personality as well. He even had more of the strength, and proved more loyalty.

    It wasn't simply out a favor. Something must've have been going on when there were other perfect candidates in the Thirteen. What it is? Only the game can answer. If we ever find out.

    In Castle Oblivion, Zexion and Lexaeus appear to be keeping to themselves, Vexen looks to be the character that just because he's the eldest and is in fourth, deserves respect, no matter how you look it at, or what type of power you have, he showed this side enough concerning Axel. Axel will be around, as so will Larxene. I don't think these type of things will change even if Saïx or Xaldin were placed there instead of Marluxia to watch over them and the building. There was nothing really to say or worry about in the meanwhile, it wasn't as if they were predicting Marluxia turning traitor and going to fight them. Maybe the rest didn't appreciate Marluxia because of his attitude or how he carried himself? Is hard to have respect for someone who you dislike despite his or her strength.

    Things didn't even really start out bad until word of betrayal started to go around and be suspected, and I'm sure the others wouldn't stand by and, let's say, if Saïx or Xaldin were in the spot, let them gain control of Sora and make the pathway to overthrow the Organization. You think they will allow it? Marluxia or no Marluxia? I think the same plot would've have followed, a bit differently, but it would be the same event. We can't even really say either, because Marluxia, Xaldin, and Saïx are different characters that had different purposes. In fact, if Xaldin was there as the Lord and in CoM by that point when the game came out, I bet he wouldn't be in the Top Five.

    The point is that there could've been a personal reason for Marluxia to do this type of act. Whatever it was, and you keep hammering at him hard for this.

    He was already facing Axel by the point until they took a small pause, and he suddenly summoned Naminé as he senses who was coming, into which he calls out to Sora as he appears. He had no problems or qualms on facing Axel when they started the battle, so why would he later? He was enjoying their little fight as seen by his grin. If it's strategically planned, it means that while it may seem like he hid behind a girl, that wasn't all that was there to it in doing so. It might've been misconduct, but the stakes were up. I wouldn't say he hid behind Naminé exactly (I'm sure if Axel would've attacked him again, he would've countered. I'm sure Marluxia knew Naminé wouldn't stop the redhead from going after him), but more like used her too, in this case. And it worked.

    Then again, this was simply a example that produced from the event itself. So I think we'll leave it at that.

    Yes, but the script is not the only thing that makes the game, only a part of it, and there are other influential outcomes that the script cannot show. It's just words, it doesn't show tones or expressions, either when talking or in the scene itself. That's why I put all the reasons of the countenance I got everytime Marluxia came on the screen and his presence, about his attacks, his death, his flow, etc. The director and the team putting it there makes it have a reason. If Marluxia wasn't to be known as dangerous, then the game wouldn't flow with that thought, or else is contradicting itself.

    Perhaps because he had known about Vexen's defeat against Sora? Perhaps because Vexen was in his team and mentioned him out of simply necessity, just to present a example, and didn't think of Marluxia at the time, who's above the top floor? Perhaps because it showed in the moment after a battle and he commented on it?

    Yes, of course, I understand the comparison, but we're not talking about having a normal team of kids being good at one thing, compared to the others that is lacking. I know where you're going with this. Yet, going by that, there can also be that special team player that has something above the rest that gains attention. Anyone can speak well, play by the rules, looks good, but sometimes, a person who has something there that harness some kind of interest, is what makes them get chosen to be captain in the end by the coach. Xemnas chose Marluxia. Again. For whatever reason other than what I mentioned before (suspected of betrayal), he must have done something impressive in the Organization otherwise. And I'm going to stand by that unless the canon says so differently.

    That's what I'm trying to point out. I'll give if in 358/2 Days it shows the truth (if this thread is even alive by then), but as for now, there's nothing saying it isn't or is.

    It seems you took misinterpretation on me as well , because I never said, in the first place, that he's among the top five, he's just the close to it. I'm just saying, the whole reason I even posted that comment in the first place, is because there was something there that caught attention that made Marluxia be in control of the castle out of everyone else.
     
  3. Repliku Chaser

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    Yeah and I think it can be established that it was more his enigmatic persona than anything else. But eh, I'm not going to argue over with you what already has been said because we just keep repeating ourselves and have posted our sides as they could be. I'm just not willing to argue with the script. Also, saying I want proof as in how the characters react and stuff...well partially yes, but not totally. The whole CoM words, interactions, the script, etc just aren't showing me he's so high and mighty. I gave the reasons I think he probably was put in charge. In the end, neither you or me may be right and we are just guessing here.
     
  4. Yeah, I guess. We'll probably know when 358/2 Days comes out, so, agree to disagree then xP. But as you said, our opinions aren't that far apart.
     
  5. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    If Marluxia wasnt stronger than the other Organization members... he would have been lame boss.
     
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