i left facebook for a reason

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  1. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    It's trying to, though. So is Skype. I don't feel that there should be an internet persona hub at all. Each different place should always be segregated and insulated as completely as possible. If you see me on another site, I'll be acting differently under a different name, because that's something I am afforded with a complete separation. Combining accounts and limiting name changes works counter to that goal. Anonymity is very important, in my opinion, because it takes the pressure off of you as a person. You don't have to pretend to be something you're not for the sake of others. You don't have to live up to expectations. You don't have to be what other people want you to be. People say that it's an excuse for bad behavior and, yes, it can be. But it can also be an artistic outlet for those too afraid to show those who they interact with on a personal basis for fear of their judgment. It can also be a release and escape from the world where you're getting laughed at by your peers for your awkwardness. It can also be a place to just try something new without worrying about the consequences. A lot of people are weighed down by their identities, their worries, their lives. Anonymity allows these poor souls to take a break and just be themselves. If you think I'm just hiding or trying to get away with something, fine, you're one of the people I was trying to get away from.
     
  2. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Points are all valid, and I don't think you're personally trying to get away with stuff either. Hiding? What you said sounds like hiding, at least to me, so sorry if that leads you a tad disappointed in me... but I don't think hiding is a negative word, either, this case.. But that's why I said it's just my personal little view on it. The thing is, I find the internet is very empowering in that matter without having to hide who you are due to the lack of physical interaction and it more being a mental game. I'm very open with who I am. I used to have a pic in my profile til Xenforo took it away, I give out my name, my place of residence, where I work, and we all know I'm not shy about my opinions or disagreeing bluntly with people I genuinely enjoy the company of... I'm nothing like I am here compared what I am out there. I don't have to worry about a nervous stutter or people judging me for being average height and skinny. It's my words and the avatar I use that are how people are going to see me. This is coming from someone who also used to fake their identity remember, and I don't think perception of me changed when I said who I was other than "wow, you're a liar." That doesn't apply to you, obv, because you're straight up about being an anon. The point, rather, was to say I don't think much changed. I can personally attest that I often use this place as a way to calm my mind, be a more blunt person, and improve my mental game for when I have to turn off the computer. As you can see, I'm very pro-combining identities.
     
  3. 61 No. B

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    yeah I made a lot changes to that post, check back

    uuuuuuuuugggghhh please dont make me.

    fine.

    I'm doing this because I like you, not because I care.

    fuck you too buddy

    I'm not arguing that the internet getting bigger isn't a good thing. I guess what I'm saying, if anything, is that my complaint is with one of the side-effects of the internet getting bigger. I hate to use this phrasing because it makes me sound dumb, but more "normal" people are on the internet now, and seeing some of the comments they make on things is saddening for me. There's no creativity in any of it.

    I mean I guess so. But seeing as how vehemently I hate Facebook, it's hard for me to say anything good about a system that was popularized on there.

    Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what you mean, no, this is exactly what I'm talking about.


    I had a pretty kick-ass response to this that would have cleared it up and made me seem like a genius but I'm fading at this point. bummer.

    happy now
    peer pressure yo
    do you even understand the sacrifices i make for you
    ugh ugh ugh this has gone on way longer than i wanted

     
  4. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Hiding as in being deceitful, you doof.

    But that aside, we had this sort of conversation about a year ago now and it really comes down to the same thing I said back then. Zack and Jay turned out to be the same person, but Jiku Neon was born here and can never leave.








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  5. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Yes, you got it right. Even the correct spelling! Well done. And did we? I know we started to, but I thought I held in a lot and we didn't end up having it. I do remember being frustrated though. Idk, do you really feel you act that different on other forums? Do you really feel like if nothing held you back in real life, you wouldn't act this same way? If honestly so, then by default I lose but I'm really just going off anecdotes. I still don't like anonymity, but that doesn't mean others don't get to enjoy it and bask in it.

    and I'm not doof :C
     
  6. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Well, yeah, I never act the same way from site to site. Every site has a different purpose and a different person is called upon to deal with that purpose, in a sense. All are similar but none are the same. I'd tell you more about the relationship between author and character, but I like to leave that up to the reader's imagination.

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  7. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    See, that's just depressing to people like me. Always will be.

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  8. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Not all of us can be type A.

    psshifIwasn'ttotallyjustsandbaggingthisoneyou'dbeonthefloorlickingmyfuckingbootsknowyourplacedoofmeisterincarnate
     
  9. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    I'm going with I don't think now is the time or place for me to respond to that as thoroughly as I want to.

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  10. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Page 1: God this thread makes me wanna fight somebody
    Page 2: I love how an admin's knee-deep in this shit and just looking on and laughing
    Page 3: AW MAN ALL THE FIGHTING STOPPED :< Everyone's just being reasonable now, booooring

    ...And then the grim realization that I have become what I hate

    CURSE YOU CAM YOU POISONED MEEEE
     
  11. Nate_River Hollow Bastion Committee

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  12. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    YEAH NIG DID WE JUST SWITCH PLACES TODAY?
     
  13. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    So i gather people don't like having a web life of their own?
    I never got that, well actually I suppose I did for a while but it felt unhealthy living as two separate people, two separate lives, felt a lot like lying to myself.

    This whole anonymous business feels like visiting a brothel, like you're lying because you want to do something socially 'wrong' and don't want to reap the repercussions of it. If you truly wanted anonymity, you wouldn't have an email address, a forum account, or anything, you'd be drifting as a guest on the web, or even safer, not at all.
    I get maybe taking a couple years on a website to warm up to someone before talking about your real life and being truthful, but if not, it seems strange to pick a social environment of the internet to then not talk, or worse to lie about who you are.

    On another forum, there was always this group of people who talked to each other and acted like friends for life, but they would never really talk to each other about their real lives, or the ones they did they lied (we learned soon after). They were all pretty bitchy and tight knit like a 'Members only' sort of thing when it came to their threads and would gang up on others together. In the end, with all the hidden identities and lying about real lives, they split and hated each other all because they couldn't trust each other. How can you when you won't even talk about who you really are? Seemed sad to watch honestly, all they needed to do was talk to each other like equals and with a degree of trust and they might have made friends for life.

    I feel like Google is taking this step so there are less people who are going to be sexist, racist, homophobic, insulting, bullying, etc because they'll be more open to scrutiny. Think YouTube might want to decrease their rep for having terrible commenters.
     
  14. Nate_River Hollow Bastion Committee

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    "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear"

    Please stop this. Right now.
     
  15. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Yo, I admit that I'm dismissive, to PaW especially, but you gotta chill out because that just came off as a knock and not a criticism. His opinion was mainly negative, but it's from a personal place there from what I gather from the first part of the post. There's honestly nothing wrong with his post other than he doesn't get it. I don't get it much either, so I can relate.
     
  16. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Not exactly like what I was going for, and I think it's the other way around, 'nothing to fear, nothing to hide'. Usually we hide information about ourselves to protect ourselves, which isn't a bad thing, but if done excessively can lead to an anti social loneliness. I for years put off from going out with my friends, lying to them that I was busy or some such, because I was afraid of going out in public with them essentially. Scared they'd not like me outside of school. Being truthful about it, they were cool with me and never made an issue out of it.

    Being truthful is just how strong relationships form, that's the only way they form, just gotta be brave enough to be open about ourselves and of others. It's what i've seen, and also observed the opposite (last post of mine story) and it's just what I believe as a result.

    I said I get it, kind of. It's just been years since I've felt like that whole anon business, the distance makes me not as in tune with the ideals behind it as I use to be.
     
  17. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Listen man, we're both pretty confrontational people- I'm assuming confident too. I don't think we'll ever have a full, personal understanding beyond the scared teen portion of it.
     
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  19. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    One day we should all share the mask collections we keep in our closets. Or perhaps not.
     
  20. Hayabusa Venomous

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    These sum up why this thread pissed me off at first.

    The internet doesn't belong to you. It's ok to dislike detrimental changes, but don't act like you are entitled to shit.