I have a theory about Loki in The Avengers

I think Loki was possessed by the staff given to him by the Other. If you have noticed, Loki first appeared at the start of the movie looking quite different. He looked sickly, with a hint of fatigue. I do not think he was himself, which is where the possessed part comes in. I'm not sure if you all noticed, but in the end when he was devastated bu the Hulk, he looked dazed. As if he suddenly woke up from a spell. Just like Hawkeye did. And they were both woken up by the same method. Physical force.

Of course, I could be wrong. But I just felt like sharing this. Feel free to come up with your own theories and such.

 

Interesting theory, but I must disagree.

Loki, imo, was 100% aware of what he was doing. HOWEVER, I don't think he was completely on board with it either. He was being forced into what he was doing by the crazy outerspace guy that idk his name. Sure, he was having fun causing some mayhem, but he dislikes being on the front lines like he was in Avengers.
Case in point; When Thor told him to come home, he looks like he SO wants to take that offer, to go home. But he can't.

On top of that, Odin is... kinda a dick to Loki. Granted, I've never actually seen Thor (the movie), but from what I can tell (and from what I read on Wikipedia), Loki is constantly pushed to the side in favor of Thor, the firstborn, the not-adopted kid. Loki desperately wants to prove himself to his family and step out of Thor's shadow and be recognized, but at the same time he wants revenge on his adoptive father for treating him like crap.

So yea, Loki has a ton of reasons for doing the things he did, but he was completely aware of all of them, and they were all performed of his own accord.

 

Did you guys know that the Avengers get killed off?

 

i have not seen the avengers yet
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Actually, that's the opposite of what Loki wants. He does not want revenge against Odin. He wants to desperately prove that he is worthy of being his son. Since you haven't watched Thor yet, I'll explain what happens at the end. Loki makes this entire plan where it seems he is siding with the Frost Giants, but he actually was going to betray them at the end. When Laufey was about to kill Odin, Loki stepped in to make it seem like he saved Odin and Asgard. All for his father. He just wants to be on equal footing with Thor. Which he thinks he isn't.

It's Thor he wants revenge on, but he also loves him. You could see the dilemma Loki has.

 

[These are my own observations and theories. YMMV]
Odin told both Thor and Loki as children that they would both be kings. Thor is the firstborn, even before the truth of Loki's heritage comes out, the throne of Asgard will be his. Loki feels entitled to ruling somewhere. After an unsuccessful stint of King of Asgard and drifting through space, he sets his sights on Midgard.

Hence why he's so obsessed with making the people of Earth kneel to him. Also why he chooses to appear in his regal armor before them. He wants to appear as a king to his chosen people.

He does tell Thor that he never wants the throne of Asgard. All he ever wanted was to be his brother's equal in everything. He isn't much of a warrior, instead preferring his sorcery and tricks to gain an upper hand and then using what any Asgardian might consider underhanded. Tricking with his doubles, stabbing in the back.

And you have to consider that even as a Jotun, he's different. Odin remarks that the infant that he finds is 'small for a Frost Giant'. Perhaps such runts were left to die and would Laufey want a runt of a son to be his heir? Likely not. The Jotuns would not accept him.

On Asgard, Jotuns were an old enemy. They had a truce but it was an uneasy one. Thor and the Warriors Three talk constantly about going to Jotunheim to defeat the Giants once and for all. The Giants hold the same role that the boogeyman has here. Regarded as monsters. So when Loki finds out he is one of these monsters that he has heard his brother speaking of killing perhaps in very graphic ways. That's where the bitterness starts, and after Odin tells Loki the truth of what he is, when Loki needed reassurance the most, Odin falls into his sleep. Loki is left with his own venomous thoughts.

When he is King, he acts to use the bifrost and the Casket to destroy Jotunheim, in the process eliminating the truth. He also sets Laufey, his biological father, to murder Odin in his sleep. However, Loki kills Laufey and doesn't bat an eyelash. He lies and tells Thor that Odin is dead, again with not batting an eyelash.

By the time we see him in the Avengers, he's fairly unhinged. His hair is greasy and unkempt. His skin is pale and sickly. He's very gaunt. A stark contrast to his healthy and well kept appearance in the origin movie for Thor. He does kill because it is fun and he might very well possibly see them as casualties in a war. And he was raised in a culture of warriors who sung the glory of battles. He wouldn't likely give it much regard even before he fairly snapped.

I do not agree that he is being controlled. I agree that he's left with little alternative aside from doing what Thanos wishes. Loki does not like to be manipulated. Rather he prefers to do the manipulating. But Thanos leaves him with little purpose. He's been backed into a corner.

After the scene with the Hulk, Loki is humbled. He has no alternative but to surrender. All 6 Avengers stand over him and Hawkeye has an arrow trained at his face. Unhinged, yes, but even then Loki is no fool. He knows when he's been beaten and resigns himself to his fate. It remains to be seen what that fate is but perhaps Thor 2 will have some answers.

 

My theory is that Loki is a good looking son of a bitch.

 

Rat, stop being a troll, you're not good at it.

You should.

See the second half of that paragraph you quoted.

I AGREE WITH THIS WHOLE HEARTEDLY. /best theory

 

I do not see what you are trying to get at.

 

Ouch that hurt. I was being honest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swn4H4sqm1A

Im not sure if it goes for the comics and all that shiet since I don't read them, but eh. Just wanted to see some reactions.

 

First off, let's call Mr Outer Space Blue Dude Exdeath (just because he reminded me of Exdeath every time I saw him).

Though that could be totally canon, I don't think it was the case in this movie. Like Fearless said, he wasn't totally on board with what they were doing, but that doesn't mean he was being possessed.

 

Hm, teal deer huh?
Been awhile since I got that treatment.
/wrist

 

Loki's got everyone's mind screwed because he's just far too handsome.

You loose all sense of concentration and thought when you look at him.

 

I have to admit, I would hit Loki.

 

Frankly, I just hope that Avengers 2 doesn't turn into Marvel Superhero Squad: The Movie.
They have so much potential for The Infinity Gauntlet, and I can only pray that they won't screw it up~

 

Actually, this part kind of agrees with my theory that he is possessed. There have been rumors going around that the reason the staff can control people is because it had the Mind Gem. Part of the Infinity Gauntlet. Which isn't a big stretch since it was actually in the film of Thor.

If you remember, Erik said that he knew what he was doing when he was working together with Loki. I have a feeling that Loki knew what he was doing too. But had a little bit of control as well. Hence that part where he was thinking of wanting to stop when Thor asked him too. But ultimately could not choose that choice.

Of course, I may be just plain wrong. But it's interesting to think about it.