I don't care HOW much you hate or love DmC

The problem with things like this is that people look at it as part of the franchise instead of a seperate and independent thing.

Dragonball Evolution:
When not looked at as a part of DB: Funny, charming story.
When part of DB: WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****ERY!?

The Last Airbender:
Not part of Avatar: Well, a bit rushed, okay, but the concept was fine.
Part of Avatar: M. NIGHT SHAMALAN WHAT HAVE YOU DONE GTFO BRO

If people would put aside their feelings for the franchise, maybe their opinions would change, mayve they wouldn't. As a person who played part of DMC4 and never played this DmC, I can say that I liked DMC4, but putting my feels for it aside, DmC still looks bad to me. It just doesn't scream "action hack n slash" to me. I lack the console for it, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't buy it.

But Nate, Boy Wonder, Sofa, I hope you guys enjoy the game, even if others don't.

 

So basically: Good game, bad Devil May Cry Game.

 

Yep, just not to me personally.

 

Has no one been listening to libre?! XD

I do really want to buy this game and have a look at just what's the worry, but i'll wait to the sale. Oh and money.

 

This is reason enough for me not to support it though. Why would I want to buy it and encourage more bad DMC games?

 

To support a better sequel? You support a game to get sequels that improve on the past format. At least that's the basics of it. I mean wasn't that the reason behind still supporting the series after DMC2? To get a better sequel?

You'd be supporting a good game even if it is a bad DMC game. Therefore future titls might make the latter into good.

 

But that makes too much sense. Let everyone get the complaining out of their systems first.

 

I'll do a trial run first off and forward the concept of a sequel to the Mass Effect 3 ragers and see if they've calmed down yet.

 

This is the kind of logic that allows companies like Capcom to pull off **** like on disc DLC and releasing fan made games for free under their own name.

Remember that time we all bought Devil May Cry 3 because of how good Devil May Cry 2 was?


I don't either.
If you provide **** then don't expect to get money.
Thank god I bought DMC3 but it took me a few months to actually get it after I played it and liked it because Capcom's last display of Devil May Cry was bollocks.
Devil May Cry 3 was good and thus sales for DMC4 were higher then ever.

 

DLC has nothing to do with sequels here.
More so, do you even believe this is a cash in game? If it was purely about making a game for mone they'd have made another sequel to the original series that fans would saliva over and not bothered to hire a foreign studio to work on it whilst aiming for a new unlredictable audience. This was by no mean a safe cash in bet.

So... This is in support of my point then?

 

You said that the point of buying DMC2 was to see DMC3
As you can see that's not true as nobody wanted to by DMC3 after 2.
And with good reason
DMC2 sucked.
The idea that you should buy something to support a better sequel is stupid.
You should buy something based on the company making it and if you like it.
DmC is a **** game and Capcom is an ass company so I could care less about what they MIGHT do if I buy it.
So I won't.

 

I agree with the second part -though most times you won't know if you'll like something before you buy it-, but the first part should never be a necessary condition to buy something. I've seen many things do extremely well despite coming from either lesser-known companies or less popular companies (not just restricting this to video games) and I've seen usually great companies throw out something horrible every once in a while.

 

But you can see that high sales of the bad DMC 2 meant Capcom was encouraged to make a sequel in the form of DMC3. That's the reason DMC3 even came to light, because of good sales.
Unfortunately people didn't buy DMC3 likely because of a bad DMC2, the game before it, but fans of the series at least got access to the new great game, which even lead into the DMC4 eventually. It's the sales that kept the series alive.

Wait, didn't you already buy this game to play it?

 

Company is more then just how many good games they make or how known they are.
I'm talking specifically about business practices.
If a company does something that goes against my principals then I probably won't buy thier game unless it's DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN good.

What's your point?
That we should buy games no matter how bad they are because of the possibility that the company MIGHT make a good game?
Doesn't that sound a tad mindless to you?
That kind of attitude allows companies to throw it all kinds of **** without actually having to put effort into anything because there will always be the gauntness's audience who will buy it regardless.
How about this.
Prove yourself by making a good game and having a good marketing team and then MAYBE people will buy the game.
Doesn't that sound fair to you?

When you show a company that they can get away with half assed behavior then they will continue to perform half assedly.

You also have to realize that DMC2 had largely negative reviews so Capcom would have no excuse for making a sequel exactly the same.
DmC does not therefore if it sells well Capcom has no incentive to change anything

 

I'm saying you're a fan of a dying series that you want to see continue, support the developer and publisher. Otherwise it's gone, for pretty much good.
And your statement that they'd make the same terrible game is wrong, by your own results, it shows that a terrible game like DMC2 can have great sales, yet spawn a great game like DMC3. It shows that improvement and changes took place, likely because of fan and reviewer input. So support it, the track record of DMC shows that the sequels can change, for the better, become fan favourites and so on. Simply just saying it's ****, don't buy it will doom the series to never improving because Capcom won't have the funds nor the inclination to improve on a series people deem unredeemable.

I don't care what happens to the DMC series, not a fan of the old series nor the new one till maybe I play it.
If the DMC fans only way of supporting DMC is by letting the series die, well, i'm glad I don't care for this series otherwise it'd hurt me to see what's going on.

And I think you know as well as anyone, standing up and expressing displeasure at Capcom has had little to no effect on their schemes of cash ins. The fact they gave this to an outside studio tells me this isn't a cash in. The DLC they releases will be but eh, that's their thing.

But again I ask, didn't you buy this game?

 

Better it be gone for good with 3 great games rather then continue to be soiled with god knows how many **** games.

Exactly
EVERYONE said DMC2 sucked
Every reviewer highlighted WHY it sucked
Every fan highlighted why it sucked
Nobody liked DMC2 except for those 6 people over there.
Capcom HAD to improve on it. If they didn't they would be belittled with the negative reception they got for DMC2.
DmC does not get negative reviews
Very few people are actually highlighting the problems with the game and the people who do are miniscule to Capcom and Ninja Theory.
The reception for DmC is good. They have no reason to change anything about DmC unlike with DMC2 where the reception was so bad and thus HAD to change something about it.

Capcom has worked like this for a long time now.
If they don't need to change anything then they won't
Just look at Megaman 1-10

Are you serious?
No like seriously
Are you ACTUALLY serious?

Is this actually how you live your life?

No
I've manged to play it on several occasions(both the demo and the full game)
But no do not intend on buying this game.

 

Death over a chance at life? I don't live that way. I'd rather they go back to the drawing board at worse, but letting it all die, not my first choice by any means.

Yet they felt the need to change Devil May Cry when their latest game before DmC was their highest grossing one of the whole series. Did they need to change anything to get money from fans? No. Yet they didn't anyway. What does that say?

You're missing my point. You need to try different techniques to persuade them, not the same old beaten to death ones. Change strategy accordingly.

 

Life covered in **** over death? I choose death. Being covered in **** is cruel and unusual punishment that nothing should be subjected to.
Something ending is inevitable. All series end be it movies, vidya, TV shows and whatever. I lot of people will tell you that they prefer their favorite series to end at a certain point because either everything after that sucks ass or they do not perceive it being good after the ending.
Nobody wants 10 more Lion King movies simply because "it's more Lion King". Sure it's more Lion King but Lion King's story is over, it doesn't need to be continued ESPECIALLY if the movies after it are just going to mangle it.
See this?

This is what you're advocating right now.
Killing a franchise and then bringing it back in the form of brain dead mass of flesh that only has the ability to feel pain and suffering will probably make you wish it just stayed dead.

Devil May Cry was given to NT because Itsuno was working on Dragon's Dogma.
The BETTER question would be "Why Ninja Theory" in which case **** if I know.

 

...I don't know what's being discussed any more...

 

You said that as long a series is being continued it's better then it being dead
I told you why that was bullshit
You said there had to be a different approach to Capcom
I showed you that different approach