How is this Holy again?

If you can't tell us where the first universe came from then I don't know what use an idea like this would do
Anyway since we are discussing our personal opinions on how the big bang happened I will share mine.

WARNING THIS IDEA INVOLVES TIME MACHINES, UNNECESARY DRAMA, AND ATOM SHOOTERS. :lolface:

My idea is that in the future the universe will slowly start to turn into empty white space. Scientist soon figure out that the universe is disappearing because something was supposed to happen, but did not happen (the big bang). So the scientists decide to invent two time machines, and two atom cannons. The scientists then set the time machines to a second before the universe was born, and then they shoot one atom into each of the time machines at the same time, the atoms collide and woe-la the universe is created, and saved thanks to the Poweruff Girls!

 

One reason can be because premarital sex is usually among reckless and irresponsible teenagers and ends with STDs and pregnancies. But the main reason is simple: Hypocrites.
People who refuse to change with the times. If you look at who really is against gay couples and is religious, chances are they're older. Or if it's a child/teen, they grew up in a religious household. These hypocrites pick and mix what they want from the bible. That's why I'm religious but not into organized religion. It's not the bible's fault, it's the bible's readers'.

My God (pun intended), I hope you're not serious.


ANd how the hell did we go from bible quotes to the beginning of the universe?

 

1. I am serious, well except for the powerpuff girls part.
But if I am correct time travel is possible, or was that worm holes?

2. Because we did. Don't be such a stick in the mud. lol jkjk
The bible has its idea about what started the universe, so otheres wanted to tell theirs.

 

Let's say time travel was possible and ignore the obvious Paradox problems.
Why hasn't anyone time traveled already?
Because it hasn't been invented?
Well in the future it's invented so we should have encountered people from the future already

 

No more Phil of the future for you! lol jk
We might have encountered people from the future without even realizing it.
I think that time is very orderly, and that when you time travel you actually fix time, not unravel it (wow I sound crazy).

 

Actually, Einstein pretty much proved that time travel was impossible, but that time viewing could, assuming some major changes in technology, be accomplished.

Also, not to trash your idea completely, but how can 2 atoms start the whole universe? We can smash atoms together today. All they do is explode.

^This started the Big Bang discussions.

 

Actually time viewing is already possible, when you look at the stars you are viewing thousands and thousands of light years into the past, and when you look into the mirror you are looking one nanosecond backwards in time.

Oh now I remember, the BB theory states that in the begining the universe was small hot dense ball. Lol. My bad.
Anyway all I truly know is that the universe started in the big bang, since all proof points towards it; can't believe Einstein couldn't figure that the universe wasn't eternal.

 

I believe that religion is the explanation of what cannot be explained thuis far. When everything is explained there will be no religion but those are some good quotes you got there jedi. Can youy find any others?

 

I'd like to point out here that my religion states that God is essentially good, but humans will tend to **** things up sometimes.

 

A few bad quotes? Um if you go back, look I have over 30 quotes from the bible thank you. Also bad is an understatement to the **** in the bible. Isn't a God who justifies genocide, rape, and slavery something to be ashamed of (if not disgusted)?

 

I don't know about the pre-bang universe, but it makes more sense to believe in a universe that just appears than to believe in a God that just appears and makes the universe appear. It just adds another link to the chain, but it's still left dangling. We then have to cover what made god, and if you make God the exception to the rule of everything having a cause, why not just make the universe the exception instead?

The detailed organisms you see can be explained by evolution. It's like a tree: I wouldn't gasp in awe at a seedling, but I'd stare at a massive, 200 year old tree. In the same way, a single celled organism is really lacklustre, but look a few billion years on and you see humanity, which is so much more complex. Both grew out of something small.

He's saying that while the probabilities are low for the planet to be conditioned to life, there are many planets around that didn't work out, meaning that while the chances were very small, there were billions of chances. Also, the chances of me winning lotto are small. If I win lotto, does that mean a god rigged it in my favour?

But why make the sacrifice necessary? Why not just get us all in heaven in the first place? Why not abolish hell? Why not make us angels, already filled with the love of him? If he creates and has power over everything, then something doesn't add up. Even if there is an omnipotent creator, I've yet to hear a reason for our existence that makes sense.

Well I'll put it this way: So far we've only found the god answer to be incorrect on many separate occasions. We still haven't found anything that has supporting evidence of a god. It's a convenient explanation, nothing more.

 

Right. Undoubtedly, religion was originally created a long-ass time ago to give people an incentive to be good, regardless of your views on it's orgin. I just believe that somewhere along the line people changed it from "be good" to "keep people in line through fear".

 

This another point why I don't believe in god.
Igod wanted kill tons of people and wanted people to rape others or take slaves.
there is so much wrong in this.
Why would you believe in a religion that supports these things?
Oh and I don't see how saying that people had different viewpoints at that time is a valid point, as it only proves that you shouldn't believe in a book that had those viewpoints.

And this "misinterpreting bullshit" is an extremly lame excuse.
How do you misinterpret

Yeah if that doesn't tell me to stone my family/friends if they use their free will, than what does it tell me.
This is not a form misinterpretation, it's just stupid and it makes me rage how people still want everyone to believe in this.

 

Hmm? We're talking about time-travel now?

Someone should make a seperate thread about that.


Well, I've been reading 'The Time Traveller' by Ronald Mallet, which features some good theories on time-travel. Time-travel to the future is possible, but we wouldn't be able to go back again very easily. The only way to go back in time is through some wierd complex thing involving rapidly rotating black holes and wormholes (or something like that), but a human could not possibly survive the journey.

 

Guys my religion does not believe in a corrupt god. We believe that it's impossible to tell how accurate the bible depicts what god wants us to do because it was filtered through so many generations and we don't know how many times Christianity as an organized religion may have changed it to keep people in line.

 

There's still the fact of the matter: This world sucks if it's supposed to have been made by a divine, all loving being.

So far the state of the world seems to reflect the dystopian view of the world the Bible has.

 

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But not everyone believes the same as you, which is unfortunate. The fact is, what seems to be a majority of people (or at the very least, a vocal minority) use religion as an excuse to be intolerant, rude, and occasionally violent.

 

As an agnostic friend of mine once put it, "I don't have any problem with God, it's his fanclub that I have a problem with." It's really just where organized religion meets human stupidity that things start to go wrong, shown as follows;

Okay, both of our religions are basically the same. The minor details may be different, but they teach us both to be tolerant, kind, and to not kill people. And even though my religion teaches me to be tolerant and nonviolent, you're going to convert to my religion or I am going to start a war over it.

wait wat ._.