Kingdom Hearts III How are they going to kill Master Xehanort?

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  1. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    I'm hoping they avoid the "friendship > all" ending where MX realizes he's wrong and redeems himself, sacrifice or otherwise.

    My guess is that it's going to be similar to Ansem, Seeker of Darkness where he's enveloped by Kingdom Hearts after achieving some final (and probably non-human) form. The only difference being that it will be instigated by Sora and company with Sora being the main conduit (or maybe the only one). I can see something like Menos said where time is instead changed and MX travels back (YOU INTRODUCED TIME TRAVEL, SQUARE ENIX, YOU. DON'T PIN THIS NONSENSE ON ME) and avoids the dark path, creating a new universe where Heartless never invaded, Nobodies never existed (did they really not exist before the apprentices started experimenting?), and the next series of games is in this new timeline with a new enemy...but Sora still somehow remains the main character. I'm still going for "I KNOW IN MY HEART. KINGDOM HEARTS IS...LIGHT!!!" type ending.
     
  2. O13 Follower Twilight Town Denizen

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    Well I think Riku and Sora finish him off and they both open the door the kingdom hearts bring the light back I mean it would be a good way to end it (light and darkness coexisting/working together and all that garbage).
     
  3. Allen Tor Destiny Islands Resident

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    In response to the comments about us not really knowing Xehanort's motives:



    Birth by Sleep suggested that Xehanort was motivated mainly by curiosity, he wanted to start the keyblade war just to see what would happen, a sort of perverse "knowledge for knowledge's sake" sort of motivation. Personally I think this is a really cool villain motivation, but knowing KH it wouldn't surprise me to find out that he was actually after something else entirely.

    Unrelated:
    Just realized Kingdom Hearts has some really cool villains.
     
  4. O13 Follower Twilight Town Denizen

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    He is trying to end the tyranny of light and bring about the coexistance of the light and dark which leads me to believe there is so much more to his plan then we have been led to believe. Cosidering his heartless wanted to plunge the universe in darkness and his nobody wanted to plunge the universe in nothingness (basically seeing how his vision of the universe is warped much like the heartless).
     
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    All I know is that it's gonna be big finale.
     
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    In KHI, we experienced a "sacrifice" act, like Sora becoming a Heartless or Riku and King Mickey being trapped in the Realm of Darkness.

    Although everything figure out okay after this, a little sacrifice in KH III in the big finale would be great.

    At same time, I hardly think they will kill Xehanort for good. Maybe he'll look for redemption, or maybe HE would sacrifice himself to fix a big mistake he would create.

    I dunno, everything is possible.
     
  7. Allen Tor Destiny Islands Resident

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    I figured the whole "light and darkness in equal shares" and "tyranny of light" stuff was just something he made up to help trick Terra into succumbing to the darkness.
     
  8. DaSpade101 Destiny Islands Resident

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    With a keyblade by Sora, I believe.

    Joking aside, I feel like Sora will sacrifice himself, but then he'll actually be revealed to be okay with some plot twist. Like how in The Dark Knight Rises,
    Batman flies the nuke outside of Gotham. Everyone thinks he's dead, but Alfred sees him in Paris or w/e
     
  9. O13 Follower Twilight Town Denizen

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    I don't think that is how it will end I believe there will be a plot twist like this was master Xehanort's plan all along kind of twist, he falls just as Sora and Riku Open the door to Kingdom Hearts and the keyblade wars begins and the war over the fate of the future begins and that is how the next game sage starts and I want to see Sora and Riku guarding Kingodm Hearts and as final bosses. Also I looked at his wiki page and it mentioned nothing about it being a lie to trick Terra
     
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    The KH wikis won't report on things like that because they're either minor details or speculation. Because we know Xehanort's character, and therefore presume he's lying most of the time, we assume he's lying to Terra--but I don't think he ever explicitly says he's lying. I don't remember the scene too well though.

    I think the simplest answer to the original question is that I believe the order must be preserved for someone to come back--that is, first their Heartless must be destroyed, then their Nobody, as was the case with Ansem SoD/Xehanort's Heartless and later Xemnas. Defeating Xehanort, then Xemnas (or whatever Nobody is born), then Xehanort's Heartless would disrupt the order and prevent him from returning yet again (theoretically). I'm sure it won't be that simple, though.
     
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    yeah ok, however this kind of thing would make trying to get kingdom hearts more meaningful then just for power and wisdom, I mean kingdom hearts is all about meaning, the names of original worlds are meaningful disney worlds the none obvious ones are meaningful, so I choose the meaningful answer until I see good reason to see otherwise
     
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    Like I said, I doubt it would be as simple as I presented it. I'd be disappointed if it was, actually. There's a lot of larger stuff at work, loose ends, previously presented plot devices, themes, etc. that should be incorporated into the finale.
     
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    I imagine that they'd just kill him. I don't think that Sora beating him would cause him to sprout another Heartless/Nobody to disrupt everything again. As far as we know, the only way to undergo that process is by losing your heart to: 1). the Heartless, 2). voluntarily releasing it with your own Keyblade (masters only, it appears) or with the Keyblade of People's Hearts. Unless Xehanort releases his heart yet again, if Sora strikes him down before that, I think Xehanort would be finished for good.
     
  14. DaSpade101 Destiny Islands Resident

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    Hey man, I was just theorizing. Anyway, I like the idea of that transition. Having Sora and Riku guard Kingdom Hearts as people from all worlds flock to get to it.
     
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    If they actually go with a legitimate kill to get rid of him, it'd no doubt be some final form of his that doesn't look as human and whose nature will unique allowing his defeat to be permanent.
     
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    It's clear that Sora will destroy Master xehanorts existence cuz....his friends are his power. Power of friendship trumps all bad guys. Nuff said. ;)
     
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    You know I am seeing that outcome more and more likely. I mean I will be disappointed but it is sort of expected from this.
     
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    I was simply stating my opinion nothing more.
     
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    If we assume he is lying then how can we even assume that we know about the plan is true?
     
  20. Allen Tor Destiny Islands Resident

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    Technically speaking we can't be certain, the best we can do is speculate based on what we know for sure.

    Based on that information I figure his goal is to see what comes after the keyblade war, and not the coexistence of light and darkness, because:
    1) When he was talking to Terra about the "tyranny of light" he had a different inflection then when he was talking with Eraqus about the keyblade war. With Terra he sounded more like he was trying to sell him something than with Eraqus where he sounded more contemplative and curious. And when Eraqus called him out on how horrible it was that he was going to "risk an apocalypse out of sheer curiosity" he started making excuses for himself.
    2) He only ever mentioned the idea of wielding light and darkness together when he was talking to Terra, he talks about the keyblade war with others.
    3) He told Terra that they should wield light and darkness in equal shares, but he only ever wields darkness.
    4) Notice how the closer Terra gets to succumbing to darkness the less Xehanort talks about the "tyranny of light" and the more he tells Terra to give in to the darkness.
    5) What reason could he have for creating the X-Blade other than causing the keyblade war.
    6) Something I've noticed about the various incarnations of Xehanort is that he/they tend to almost forget when they start monologue-ing that they were trying to talk to other people at first, and just start talking to themselves, Xehanort does this whenever he starts talking about the keyblade war. How would he lie when talking to himself?