Kingdom Hearts II Hints towards Xion in KH2?

Hm... I just re-watched the video, and I can see a hint.....Nice!

 

Where do you see a hint? In his awakening? If so then what is it?

 

I think I can see just a little hint on the Fourth Day of playing Roxas, just as he is falling off the Tower. It's just a little hint, but I think it's nice. I never knew Xion was created in the middle of creating KHII.

 

She wasn't >.>.

 

Actually yeah she was. Nomura said it during and interview...

 

Here's a hint to something that happened in days. One word "two?" Axel says this before his second fight with Roxas. In days Roxas only uses one keyblade. I could go on discussing this one word that Axel says and how it's a hint to days.

 

There is also a hint towards Xion in a keyblade, name "Two Across" with Xion and Roxas becoming Sora, as they are nobidies becoming whole.

Even though she was created in the middle of KHII, it's a possiblity that the Two Across keyblade can have a hint towards Xion. Though I only think that this hint can be proven in KHII:FM+. :(

It can't be proven in Days, well, beacuse Xion is in it.

 

"Two Across" has nothing to do with Xion, really. It reeks of Roxas, his own style (where's Xion's anywhere near this?), and Nomura has said Roxas's clothes represent Twilight (Dark and Light), as well as the Nobodies overall realm. Hence, the name. Let's not even get to Sora and Roxas as two proper half of themselves.

Not at all.

Show it to me.

The only aspect Nomura has ever said about this, from what I recall, was that he thought "Roxas left because of a girl", which, could be anyone (and considering his BBS Ultimania interview, you have to wonder if the guy keeps track of his own series, or if he's covering his ass here like he did about Donald and Goofy not recognizing Yensid's Tower), which is cliche, and ridiculous in itself considering everything else that could've worked. But that's beyond the point anyway. It seems he made it very clear, if we take his words seriously, that there was no other process about Xion that existed as of 358/2 Days other than that quote. So her being in that image in the Twilight Mansion with Riku when none of that was thought of (especially when Naminé ended up drawing Xion herself in one scene in Days, and it looks nothing like the shadows of the people there in KH2. If this was suppose to be an allusion to Xion, the familiarity would be kept the same so the audience can connect it instead of switching the style), just like the cloaked figure in Roxas's Awakening, it's contradicting. Unless it's retconned. But there has been no confirmation that it was.

Xion did not exist, nor like Twilight Blaze keeps saying, got "created in the middle of KH2". We spent the good of two games having to do about the Organization after KH1 (no, three if you count FM+), so shouldn't there have been a hint? That there were files kept, in the way Axel snuck into Vexen's room, perhaps, or diaries kept by the Organization that could not have been erased since Naminé had no power to that (wow, that was a slip up now that I think about it, especially considering Axel. Then again, I didn't take this game as a serious addition), and there was absolutely nothing to say, or, once more, hint? A CLEAR HINT. All I see is people scavenging too deeply into things for whiff of Xion that are otherwise vague, and could represent other meanings or factors easily.

You want to know what got created in the midst of KH2? BBS. And not only did that get confirmed, it got a clear, outright mention by Xigbar, with its own secret ending right after, and glorious clues all over KH2: FM+ soon.

Trust me. If Xion was created by then, we would've known very blatantly. There's no excuse as to why not when BBS got that treatment, and it was in the mind of Nomura since the development of KH2 itself.

If no one believes there's something off about this, then it's all on them, I suppose.

 

...But why would we have clear, outright hints about somebody who was deleted from reality?

 

Okay... I didn't see why you should go all the way to prove me wrong...

But thats the same information I kept on hearing and thats what I thought. I even looked it up on google! (Google rocks XD)

 

Because Nomura just works like that. You know how he is as well as we all do.

 

Phazeun, I wasn't only directing that post at you. It sort of fitted for the whole topic in general. I just happened to pick on yours since it had the comment needed xD.

And I know Nomura is...Nomura (and I really can't trust his words anymore, since he retracts them), but if he was going to create such a retcon (and a fail at that, in my opinion), at least do it well. I'm still laughing over the fact that Xion said to stop Roxas, when Riku was already waiting in the skyscraper, and Diz had Data Twilight Town set. I mean, what were they doing? Enjoying the view? Waiting until Xion got into their minds and told them what to do? >.>

I probably would've appreciated the game better if it didn't have glaring faults like this. It's like they tried every scene to get her in just so it appeared that Xion mattered, when it really wasn't needed.

I'll requote myself:

Xion was erased from people's memories. Not that every object went with her. They wrote about her. And asking that question is the same as asking: why would we have clear, outright hints about an event that happened ten years ago that no main character remembers clearly or was there for to really care?

 

that orginization member was probably either Axle or Siax. (leaning strongly towards Axle)

 

...Okay then. You're allowed to delete Xion from your mental canon. Doesn't change the fact she exists and she's going to be featured in the game hinted by Reconnect.

 

I don't know if anyone said this but I feel stupid for not noticing. Look at the pictures Namine drew. We see a red head, a blonde, a black haired person. Meaning Axel, Roxas, and Xion.

 

It can't be Axel. Look at the physique of that member. I think it's Roxas. Besides why would Axel be IN HIS MIND. I mean teh whole awakening takes place inside the person's mind. Sora's took place in a dream and Roxas's took place when time in the virtual TT froze. Maybe Diz made it to be a seperate place for him to travel to when he as ready but none of us can say for sure.

Yeah I was thinking that too. But I saw that it was only a pic of Axel, Roxas, and what looks like Jasmine and Aladdin. I mean they DID go to Agrabah and see them so it'd make sense.

 

Maybe. The type of cloak shape is wrong. But, Roxas's memories of the organization came back to him in the end. So the cloaked person could be a "memory" fragment coming back to him? I suppose when you think about it, it makes some sense.

 

I think it's one of three people:
1. Xion for obvious reasons.
2. Just a random Organization cloak as a "repressed" memory. (In other words, no one in particular, just the memory of being in the organization)
3. Himself. Sora saw his shadow version during his Awakening. Roxas saw his "Nobody" person (granted, he was already a Nobody, but he didn't know that)

I"m leaning more towards three.

 

So am I. It'd make more sense if he just saw himself but didn't know that it was him. I think it may be more of a combination fo 2 and 3. Like its Him with the hood up so he CAN'T tell that it's actually him.

 

I seriously think it's Xion that Roxas sees. First of all, remember that Xion kept changing her appearance towards the end of Days. Sometimes she would look like a black-haired Kairi, other times, she'd look like Sora (in an Organization coat). So even though that figure looks like it has Roxas' "physique", it could have easily been Sora's physique. (And lets not forget that Xion's final form was a giant 'Nobody'. Granted it looked more like Sora that a Twilight Thorn, but you catch my drift.)

And as far as the pictures in Namine's room are concerned, I think that the one with Roxas, Axel, and (I don't remember if it's one or two) hooded Organization members, is definately a reference to Xion and Days. I'm sure they had some idea of creating a game based on Roxas' days within the Organization and that they would introduce new character(s). Maybe it was just a thought back then (while making KH2) and they didn't really design Xion yet, so they had no idea what she would look like.