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Discussion in 'The Spam Zone' started by Amaury, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. Amaury Chaser

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    I guess that's where my "I have a really hard time interpreting the tone of a message" comes in, then.
     
  2. 61 No. B

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    It's because you don't have a good reputation around here, and people are quick to jump on you.
     
  3. Hiro ✩ Guardian

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    Pretty much this
     
  4. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    That's very subjective and personal to individuals.

    I have no qualms with Amaury. I find his endearment admirable.
     
  5. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    That's not what endearment means.
     
  6. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I mean his love and affection to the site, no matter what.
    And there is a lot of what.
     
  7. Stardust Chaser

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    What a pity they're incapable of exercising a bit of self-restraint. :L
     
  8. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    He has a bad reputation because he does nothing to make them think well of him and awful lot to make them think ill.
     
  9. 61 No. B

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    Well you're not generally one of the people that give him a hard time.
     
  10. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    And because you don't like him that's a good excuse to give someone a hard time?

    Sounds more like bullying to me.
     
  11. Stardust Chaser

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    I fail to see how that claim justifies going out of one's way to ridicule someone.
     
  12. 61 No. B

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    It's not completely dissimilar.
     
  13. Loriah Banned

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    And why should we care if other people don't have an avatar or not?
     
  14. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    By that you mean to say it is bullying then?
    And that's ok?
     
  15. Stardust Chaser

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    Hm, I could have sworn we have policies against that sort of behavior.
     
  16. 61 No. B

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    we don't

    Amaury does.

    For some inconceivable reason I will never be able to understand.[DOUBLEPOST=1354492304][/DOUBLEPOST]
    There are similarities, but since it's the internet, and the spam zone, inhibitions must be sacrificed, and since everything must be taken with a handful of salt (I belive the rules say something about this expression that defends the validity of this argument), it's semi-forgivable.

    If bullying in the spam zone is actually bullying and not simply relentless biting sarcasm, then I'm a bully.



    I would argue that Amaury brings it on himself, but since that's not a valid defense for bullying in real world matters I won't use it here. Though I will add that since what is considered socially acceptable on the internet is somewhat warped compared to real life, that defense is somewhat applicable here.
     
  17. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    So you're trying to say because you can't see the person you're bullying then it's not bullying?

    Shall I direct your attention the the amount of cyber bullying that takes place all the time? Because it seems like you don't realise how large of a problem that is in the modern age, or you're ignorig it for your own defence of the act.

    I treat people on the internet like I do real people. Because they are real people, not an NPC or some figment of my imagination.

    I'd be incredibly worried if you understand you're a bully and wouldn't do anythig about it just because you're on the internet.
     
  18. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Everyone does it. You've done it. I've done it. We've all been horrible to someone at some point in our lives and thought it either a small thing or completely justified.
    That's human. That's inevitable.

    But you ask for justification here, so I'll give it to you. There isn't a justification. A logical person would simply ignore someone they hate or avoid them. But people want to have fun and they have an audience to egg them on because no one really disagrees most of the time. Where are you for the other 99% of the time? People who don't like Amaury should simply stop talking to him at all. He'd lose all the posters in his threads and who knows what would happen then. But the cold, logical way isn't what people will do and being everflowing fonts of love and acceptance is even less likely.
     
  19. Stardust Chaser

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    No. Mean-spirited bullying is simply that, and "relentless biting sarcasm" is no different when it's being used to hurt someone, don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
    There is no justification for being flat out cruel to other people, and quite frankly that behavior is not welcome here.
     
  20. Plums Wakanda Forever

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    What Star and PaW are pretty much saying is, if you don't have an interest in the threads someone posts, you don't have to reply, lol? No one can say that's impossible when there are countless threads in the KH sections, Discussion, Debate Corner, Writer's Nook and Literature section with a fraction of the replies given to a member who, to quote an reply, has a "poor reputation around here."

    I can understand if someone pushed you past the event horizon of bullying, but for someone who posts threads that are, like the other 20,000+ pages of this SpamZone, going to be another fraction of a blip on the radar is really unnecessary? Members will get on your nerves; there have been a number of times where I've been annoyed at people on this site, even some of my closest friends. But that's no reason to charge in with the intent to "fix" or "change" someone.

    Amaury's only been back a year.
    Loriah's only been here two weeks.
    HoT's been here for almost two years.
    I've been here for three years.
    Misty's been here near seven years.

    All of us share a common thing: we've done things in the past on here that we may not be proud of. We all have a trail of embarassing shit behind us, and even make new piles as we try to get away from it. The fact is, this is what makes us who we will e in the future. Hero of Time's antics as Ventus108, my days when I was Plums Vi Britannia and posting emotes like this :) :D :(, Misty when she caused a shitstorm in the SpamZone, Amaury making an offensive thread or two -- all of these experiences culminate into a greater person who has and will continue to grow from what they were. Some may be slower than others, and it's a process that, while it can be sped up, should not be condemned for a set of standards you adopt now that you've put behind your emotes, put behind your l33tsp34k.

    And casual reminder?

    Yo shit trail ain't that far behind you.
     
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