Kingdom Hearts II heartless oraganzion?

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  1. Gopihearts123 Destiny Islands Resident

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    the oraganzation is a nobody but what about their heart?maybe there heartless got destroy and get the moon turn in a heart so they can have a heart.do you think?:confused:
     
  2. Insane_Squrriel Destiny Islands Resident

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    What... The... ****?! I couldn't understand any of that...
     
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    I could...but only because I'm used to...this kind of thing...but please Gophihearts...try to make more sense. Ok...nobody knows what happened the the Org.XIII's heartless. Maybe they died(killed technically because I doubt they die normally). It is a little bit of a plot hole...what did happen to their hearts? Wouldn't their heartless have taken a more human form like "Ansem"? Hmmm...any ideas random people?
     
  4. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    maleficent's . well i don't know if it's a organization
     
  5. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    maybe Sora killed the heartless of all those people in kh1...
    I can see Trickmaster being a heartless beast of Luxord...
     
  6. Noba Destiny Islands Resident

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    Well in Nomura interviews he said that Ansem was probably the only one out of the members in the organization whose heartless could get a human form. And that was only after he stole Riku's body. Who knows what happened to the rest of them, they could've taken the form of a boss in the kh games or simply shadows that we beat along the way. Maybe we'll see them in new kh games...
     
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    By Nomura's own account, Ansem (Xehanort) is the only Heartless that kept sentience and maintained a form. The other members of Xehanort's group were changed into probably Pureblood Heartless since it would make no sense for the original group of 6 to have changed into Emblem Heartless if they cast themselves to Darkness direct as Ansem/DiZ declares.

    If Sora managed to destroy the Heartless, any Nobody that died would go back to the cleansed Heart that was maintained and held by Kingdom Hearts. (Not their fake one as we don't even know what the purpose all the way for it was). This is what happened to Axel when he died. His Nobody part went back to rejoin with his Heart and he should be now merged with his Somebody somewhere. As for others in the Org, no one right now knows if they truly ceased to exist because their Heartless haven't been destroyed yet so the Hearts would be held for them or not. It could be that some members of Castle Oblivion in CoM endured and rejoined their Somebodies but we won't know the answer to that. It could also be some people in KH2 other than Axel made it but we won't know that either yet.

    But we also know by Nomura's words that if a Nobody dies when a Heartless is still in existence that owns his/her Heart, that the Nobody fades and is lost to Darkness. So it could be some members other than Axel made it back to be whole again, but there is no way to find out for sure. The top 6 members may have been the most 'screwed' in the design of things if their Heartless were actually lost in the realm of Darkness but there's nothing for sure saying those Heartless didn't get out. The only one who "probably" absolutely won't have a Somebody is Xemnas because Riku killed Xehanort's Heartless and there was no 'Heart' released as the Heartless merged with Riku. So, unless there is some plot twist happening, the only one absolutely to write off is Xemnas. I'd almost think it safe to say most if not all of the top 6 members probably were done for too but that is chancy. Perhaps though some of the Organization members made it back to their Somebodies.

    We also don't know if at the end, when Sora and Riku had defeated Xemnas, what happened to the remaining Nobodies, as to whether they ceased to exist or went back to their own Hearts either. Sora did kill a lot of Heartless so it's possible a good percentage made it back, and they didn't really 'die' unless Xemnas had some safety feature that said if he died, they all would. So, I think they gave in and wait for their Hearts to return to them so they can be back to normal. It is interesting to speculate on that since technically they seemed to choose to leave and move on. Not sure though.
     
  8. ♦Demon♥Angel♦ Gummi Ship Junkie

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    (1): I dom't mean to be so mean....but you write to much....YOU COULD WRITE A NOVEL!!!
    (2): Ansem would be the only member that would be a TRUE heartless. i pretty sure that Maleficent would...and the boss heartless....and anku! (ansem, riku)
     
  9. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    It is all too possible for all organizatin
    members to have retained a human form as a heartless.

    The only one that is proved to have only been a shadow,
    was Roxas.
    And that is only speculation besides.

    There might have been an entirely different heartless than the one Sora
    became himself.

    After all, Namine and Roxas are both made from
    Sora and Kairi,
    since their hearts were one when Sora plunged the
    "Heart unlocking keyblade" was self-plunged into his chest.

    But even other deinzens retained their
    basic shape and form as heartless even after death.
    Ex: Scar, which also implies he may have a Panthera Leo shaped
    Nobody.

    And Xenoharts heartless may have actually
    have been a emblem heartless himself,
    probably being created from Xenmas's battle data,
    by Xenmas himself most likely.

    Why do I say this?
    Notice the mark on Xenohart's chest.

    And also bear to mind Xenmas always has had access
    to Ansem's heartless making computer,
    hence the MCP,
    and battle data can make an almost exact replika.
    Ex: Riku Replika.

    And as for Luxord being the Trickmaster.
    Improbable.
    The trickmaster plays entirely different games,
    and he's from a FF game besides.
     
  10. Jayn

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    Uhm...

    Ah...Well that's been answered. Again, simply, Ansem was the only one that took a definite form. The rest turned into the little heartless that Sora destroyed with the keyblade.:D
     
  11. Finale Wannabe Nobody

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    i think, like all heartless, they rely on instinct and dont do anything, some could be shadows. and some could be dark thorn, who knows.
    and in ansems reports, the only 2 cases of heartless acting on will are people willing to turn into a heartless.
     
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