Goodbye Platinum.

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  1. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    you'd just get a **** style rating, you can still beat the games even on DMD.
     
  2. C This silence is mine

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    So in other words, you can play a CAG game without doing what makes the CAG game a CAG game? That sounds like a pretty bad definition you've got there.
     
  3. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Doubtful, but okay.

    And style points fuel everything in that game because they create more blood. Style rankings generally fuel everything in a CAG.[DOUBLEPOST=1383437544][/DOUBLEPOST]
    I can play Pokemon without level grinding or anything rpg related and beat the game... I can at ffvii without using materia or switching weapons- the only rpg aspects in that game.
     
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    Let's not change the subject here, everybody knows that the JRPG definition is outdated and sucks, but it's been around since for ages and it would be difficult to change it. This whole "Character Action Game" thing is pretty new though, so there's no reason for it to have the same problems.
     
  5. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    you don't need red orbs to use Combo A or if you REALLY need it High time/Helm Breaker. All style points change are your score rating and red orb drops. Not really necessary to beat the game.

    Also I think you're forgetting the role playing aspect of RPGs. Vtm:B certainly has no grinding and can be beaten without changing weapons (aside from using the gun in the tutorial) but that's certainly an RPG.
     
  6. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    >doesn't fit in as evidence because I don't want it to

    I can play CoD with just a knife or Halo with my fists.

    CAGs are a branch of best 'em ups as stated earlier in the thread so I don't see how it's surprising that if you blatantly ignore the elements of a CAG, you get a beat 'me up.
     
  7. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    so now the definition of CAG is "the best beat em ups"?

    so like this?


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  8. C This silence is mine

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    At least I'm not the one spouting nonsense like God Hand fitting into your made up definition.
     
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    Never liked those gummi ships, don't know how to make good ships :(!
     
  10. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    No, but you could easily use blood for other elements to lean towards survival like devil trigger gauge, items, and more. Just because you can break the game if you're an expert doesn't mean it's genre definition is now lost. Due to glitches, Wind Waker could be a flight simulator when played by speed runners[DOUBLEPOST=1383439055][/DOUBLEPOST]
    >creator calls it a beat 'em up
    >fans call it a beat 'em up
    >genuinely tried to help you understand because I thought you wanted to know and weren't just trying to start shiz
    >purposely dismissive language

    Okay.[DOUBLEPOST=1383439124][/DOUBLEPOST]
    >trying to use a typo to bait

    Okay.
     
  11. C This silence is mine

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    Exactly, beat 'em up. Which means that God Hand is not the same as the other Platinum games.


    Your entire arguement here seems to be "Other genres have false definitions, so it's alright for this one to do it too!"
     
  12. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    I wasn't aware that dodging and using combo A was an exploit.

    Or that you made a typo.

    and everyone calls DMC a hack n slash, which is a subgenre of B'mup, but apparently that only counts with God Hand or sometihng.
     
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  14. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    I never said it was the same except that it was liked by the same audience?

    My entire argument is a retort on his "I can play this by ignoring genre defining elements, so it's not the genre" argument, which basically means he's playing it with a house-ruled challenge.

    I'm legit sorry. I'm sorry I thought you were actually asking and tried to explain even after I said I was done when you were actually just trying to start stuff. I won't make that mistake again.
     
  15. C This silence is mine

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    I was actually asking, but just because I'm asking means I'm not allowed to put question your answer? That sounds like the thinking of nazi. And risk is actually mentioning a legit way of playing the games. Glitching Wind Waker is not.

    And it's not like there isn't a genre definition out there that would eliminate these problems. It's called hack 'n slash.
     
  16. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    I'm done and every response will be me saying I'm done to cement this. Glad you got your flame war out of it.
     
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    The amount of dismissive stupidity in this thread is embarrassing. I will be going now.
     
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    Let's not forget who was pulling out the greentext here. You shouldn't escalate things if you can't handle the situation you're creating.
     
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