god existing vs god not existing

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  1. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Oh my god. Oh my god you seriously did not just debate with that.
     
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    hehe that was my super secret weapon. fight knowledge. with stupidity.
     
  3. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    With the way human expansion's going, I wouldn't be too sure of how far we could go. There's six billion kilometers between Earth and Pluto, the farthest known planet (I know it's not now, but who knows when that decision will change again) in our Solar System. It takes light roughly six hours to reach Pluto, and even if you travelled at 100,000 km/h it would take almost seven years.

    It is a valid argument because it would take many, many generations to even expand out to Pluto, assuming that we've advanced technology enough to create a stable environment on each planet as we expand. As of today, we have discovered that life MAY be able to be on Mars, but to create an environment where colonies of people can live would take quite a while. And I'm not sure how many would be willing to leave Earth for an experimental colonization of a planet miles away.

    So should the Sun die before we reach Pluto or expand no further than Pluto we'd die anyway because there would no longer be a gravitiational pull and we'd all go hurtling into space.

    Also Darkest, please explain how God would just "fix the Sun" if miracles like parting the Red Sea have happened once in some billions of years that the Earth has been in existance. :3

    EDIT: Wow, really? So you mean your entire argument so far has been stupidity?
    And please don't spam. :D
     
  4. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Oops sorry for spamming.

    Well to answer "How" he could do it ill just say hes god. he can do anything.

    Why? the sun killing us. If earth doesn't have the ability to protect itself by then. Every human being would die. He cares for everyone too much to let us all die. thats why he hasn't done any Huge miracles since then. Never has every human being been threatened to die.
     
  5. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    True, but unless you can look into the future you just can't use this argument to your advantage, because it could go either way. Really, not too long ago I was talking with my friend about the gap left by the Christian Dark Ages in the progress of technology, without that (on a steady constant of expansion similar to the existing exponential one in knowledge) we would've been where we are now around 100-200 years ago.
     
  6. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    The ozone is what protects us from otherwise harmful rays of the Sun. If a god does exist, and the planet (and we) are slowly being killed by "global warming", why doesn't he just end global warming now? Wouldn't that save more lives?

    And say that one of the more plausible and immient causes of the world ending occurs: a meteor impact large enough to end life, just like it did sixty five millilon years ago. We wouldn't have the ability to launch an attack against the meteor that wouldn't create a backlash on the Earth itself. Then what?

    @Dalk - Wasn't the technological gap caused by disease? Who's to say that there won't be another mass disease like that in some hundred years; with modern commerce it wouldn't be hard for the whole globe to be open to infection, effectively causing another gap.
     
  7. childofturin Why?

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-450467/Found-20-light-years-away-New-Earth.html

    20 light years away. Maybe in 30-40 years, using some kind of antimatter engine (not light speed, or anywhere close, but maybe .5c, I hope), we could get there with some kind of generational ship (children born on ship, plants grown for food and air, etc) or cryo-ship (people put into suspended animation), both of which we are close to being able to do, we could get there in ~40 years. Boom. extra-solar colony within a century.

    I know, unlikely, the way politics keep shifting, and the planet may not support life, or even be able to, but it is a possibility.
     
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    Your argument is not valid anymore.

    Forgot about the whole point of this:

    God exists.Dinosaurs were destroyed by a meteor.Jesus existed and did his job and died for your sins.

    Look it up in the bible.
     
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  10. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Yeah, seriously If God din't interfere somehow. I seriously doubt that its gonna be the sun killing us al. Probably disease. Nuking.
     
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    ...But didn't you just say that a god would never let so many humans die?
     
  12. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    You see thats why I said IF God didn't interfere. I was basically just saying it from your point of view of god not existing.
     
  13. childofturin Why?

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    Still spam IMO, because this has been addressed, either her or in another similar thread - the Bible is not a valid source of evidence, as it has no contemporary sources backing up what it has to say. There is not one record from the wedding that states that Jesus turned water into wine. We haven't found a single source documenting his resurrection. The cross wasn't even a horrific form of death back then - it was routine. People walking down well-used streets would sometimes see them LINED with crosses where criminals had been executed.

    No, the bible is definitely NOT a valid source.
     
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    At the moment I believe the most likely way we'd die is meteor impact.
    And plus there's all that lovely debris from the satellite collisions that will rain down on Earth in 10,000 years or something like that. :3
     
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    YOU PUT ME IN YOUR SIGGY!!! HEEECKKK YEAHHH!!!

    lol jkin. Umm yeah. Isn't it a great World were making for our Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great GreatGreatGreat Great Grand Children? hey get to look forward to wearing a metal umbrella becuz of the chunks of stuff pouring down.
     
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    They die. They die if they exist because of the debris, and that I don't think God interferes in the world anymore.
     
  17. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    The collision was an accident. >_>
    And a metal umbrella wouldn't save you from a hunk of space debris re-entering the Earth's atmosphere at a high speed.
    Unless of course we EVOLVED into some kind of thing that could resist that sort of impact. But if a god exists, he'd just save us from flaming metal, correct?
     
  18. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Oh. well meh. Oh and @ Mistermofeles or whatever your name is. i can't spell it. Yeah he doesn't interfere becuz nothing huge has happened. I mean the biggest thing that happened in my lifetime i think was 9/11 and i dont think that was that huge in the rest of the world.
     
  19. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    No, he doesn't interfere because we don't want him to, and that we SHOULD be able to take care of ourselves but we can't because we're f*cktards. Also 9/11 was giant, you don't even know.

    NON-INTERFERENCE :La
     
  20. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    wate a minute im sorry. i just looked at the title. we went from God Existing vs. not existing to Humans evolving to be protected from flaming metal chunks falling to the earth. yeahhh.... ok goodnight.
     
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