god existing vs god not existing

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  1. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    ZOMG REVERSAL TIME!!! DING DING DING!!!
    Prove that he does then. With cold hard evidence.
    And yes, you are a dimwit if you misinterpret numerous scientific concepts in just one post.

    By the by, I never once mentioned that I could prove that God doesn't exist (it's fairly impossible in case you haven't noticed). There are many Christians who combine the Big Bang theory with the existence of a deity.

    Who says there were only a few atoms?
    Also, I will admit that there is no valid system that explains the origin of life yet. Then again, neither does religion. Or are you implying that "God did it" is by any means a scienfically valid explanation?

    Might want to brush up your Comprehensive Reading as well. ;)
     
  2. childofturin Why?

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    Thank you. I forgot the Anthropic Principle. And it must be said, that the probability can even be .00000000000(x10,000)1. It WILL happen, if the universe persists for long enough.
     
  3. Cyanide King's Apprentice

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    Well, technically speaking, God isn't a "theory" in the same sense the big bang is. In a scientific context, "theory" does not imply uncertain guesses, it's a set of principles and postulates that try to explain a certain phenomenon.

    We have the theory of gravity, it's subject to change, but apples won't suddenly start falling upwards if it does.

    I'm a vampire. Prove me wrong.

    Also, would you mind getting a less obnoxiously large signature?
     
  4. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Easy.

    I don't believe you.
     
  5. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    I know, that's why I said that it's nothing more than that. I tried not to imply that it is a theory. Good point though. ;)
     
  6. Cyanide King's Apprentice

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    How does that prove I'm not a vampire?
     
  7. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Yeah I believe in god existing.
     
  8. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    I believe that God EXISTS, but not as an interfering entity. He does not actively take part in creation anymore, according to what I believe.
     
  9. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    he does exist. he doesn't do Extraordinary miracles like parting the ocean. but there are miracles that go on everyday.
     
  10. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that Moses?

    Anyway...no, I don't believe there's a god. There's no solid evidence at all. Jesus, perhaps, but no, not god.
    While there is no evidence of a god, there is evidence of evolution happening in its own right.
     
  11. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Moses was merely a human. He got his power from God. I believe.
     
  12. Blademaster Mai'kel Hollow Bastion Committee

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    As Darkest Blade said, while Moses did part the Red Sea, according to Genesis, he didn't do it by himself.

    There also isn't any real, indisputable proof that God doesn't exist, either. Evolution/the Big Bang, etc. doesn't count as proof.
     
  13. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    Even though radiation from the Big Bang has been detected?
    I'd say that's pretty good evidence in itself.
     
  14. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    As I have said, that doesn't matter. We don't have to provide evidence to disprove god. It is not the place of science to prove negative theories, only positive ones (in the sense that we prove that gravity is the force that keeps us on earth and disprove that it is, we do not prove that it is not).

    Evolution and the Big Bang are ignored and/or contradicted in the Bible so they do technically kind of count as proof against the existence of the Christian god (I don't know enough about other Abrahamic religions to say about their gods)

    EDIT: @ DPWolf, He means that evolution and the Big Bang are not evidence that god does not exist. He is not saying that evolution and the Big Bang never happened.
     
  15. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    i don't really see it mattering either way. i personally don't know and don't care. but the only thing i dont' like is when either of the sides impose their beliefs on others. but i do see a logic flaw with the whole matter being up to faith. i mean, if God existing can't be proved and is only a matter of faith, why is God existing seem more plausible to people than say......UFO's when that is more plausible. i hope no one takes this offensively, because my intention isn't to offend.
     
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    There is no proof do disprove the existence of God. Just like how there is no proof to disprove the Big Bang. I pick scientific theory over myth and fairy tales.
    I wonder how many people actually study up on their scriptures and still believe.

    Wishing hell on somebody? This is the kind of hate that I don't want to see. What happened to love your enemy? Totally contradicting a commandment which is taught in Christianity.
     
  17. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I've never realy checked into The Big Bang theory that much. But Radiation can come from many different sources. I mean Cancer Treatment is a source of Radiation. That Chemical Spill in Russia (Chrinoble err something like that) spread half way across the entire earth. And I'm jus saying I haven't looked into the whole radiation theory for the big bang so im just saying my thoughts on possibilities.

    That is the point. I believ in God More then Aliens becuz I see what he has done for the Earth. (what people think the big bang is) And by that i mean creation. I also believe that there may be Aliens out there.
     
  18. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    There are different kinds of radiation. Cancer treatment is chemotherapy. The meltdown at Chernoble was nuclear.

    The radiation from the Big Bang was detected in space, different than the usual radiation we detect and different from that here on Earth.

    And I've got a question for those that believe in a god(s): When the Sun exhausts its hydrogen fuel supply in some fourty million years, what happens to us?
     
  19. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Provided we are around and haven't killed earth, we should be well out into the galaxy fourty million years from now. That really doesn't affect God vs. no God.
     
  20. Cutsman Gummi Ship Junkie

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    God Fixes the Sun before that happens.
     
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