Gaza Strip War

As many of you should know, there is currently a war occuring in the Gaza Strip between Hamas and Israel. Hamas has been firing rockets into citizen living loctions for about 7-8 years. Even during cease-fires, Hamas has fired several rockets into Israeli territory. Recently, Israel decided to counter-attack because there is no true cease-fire and enough is enough. There was an 18 minute cease-fire at one point, but Hamas broke it by firing even more rockets into Israel. Now, it is true that Israel is firing into civillian territories in Gaza, such as schools and mosques, but Hamas is operating in mosques and schools, so they make phone calls and send leaflets to warn the population of the attack so they can evacuate. Hamas has also been using human shields to defend themselves, as well as increase the body count.

Israels current goal is to eradicate the terrorist group, Hamas and to regain control over the Gaza Strip.

 

I don't honestly get it, but I have a friend over there, and everyday I wonder if I am gonna be able to talk to him again. I just want this to be over, and these two groups to live in peace.

 

Hmm...
I wonder
Were the Children of Gaza throwing bombs at Israel for 8 years?
Guess Not!
Israel Children were not killed as severely as Gaza's
That is not Israel's Goal
Honestly
If Israel wanted to get rid of Hamas
they should use their Technology to FIND them
Not just pick a school/Mosque and say "Oh Hamas Might be Hiding their"
To be Honest Hamas is doing a good thing
Its their Home
Their Land
Israel is just using Hamas as an excuse to bomb more schools and Mosques
This is so Uncivilized
Innocent Children are dieing
The War has to Stop
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I was forced to know this because we only had one English speaking channel in Spain, CNN. So my thoughts on it are that Hamas should just stop firing rockets at Israel and Israel should not go over the top to protect their citizens by killing innocents as well as terrorists in Gaza. To be honest I think the whole things ridiculous.

 

This whole matter is really absurd, but here's how I see it:

1) Hamas is a terrorist organization. Get that out of the way first.
2) Israel has gotten crap for decades, whether it's because of blatant anti-Semitism or from neighboring Arab/Muslim countries who deny Israel's right to exist.

On the other hand...
1) The civilian death toll in Gaza right now is inexcusable. It almost seems like Israel is firing indiscriminately at whatever buildings they can target.
2) Both organizations really need to find a way to settle this before this escalates into something involving the rest of the Middle East.

 

Wrong. It has lasted 6-8 years. Get your facts straight.

The reason it is not as severe is because Hamas are using human shields, being the cowards that they are.

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It is not Hamas's land. One, Hamas is a terrorist organization. It doesn't and shouldn't belong to them (although it seems like it). The Jews, way before the State of Israel existed, occupied that land for thousands of years. The Muslims occupied it for much less time. Israel has stated that it will take back the land it has given to the Muslims, the Gaza Strip, because it is a liability to continue to power their houses and give them food, water, and healthcare since we are always going to be bombed.

Israel also is not doing this as an excuse to bomb schools and mosques. They have NEVER done this before until now because rockets have been coming for years, into populated areas where there are innocent civilians. One even hit an, fortunately, empty playground. However, that is where Hamas is hiding rockets. In the schools and mosques. What do you want Israel to do? Put down it's weapons so we can get blown up. Israel is doing this purely in self-defense. Give us a break.

 

Of course, Israel does have the right to protect itself from what it views as a threat. However, that is no reason to bomb wherever the heck they suspect bombs to be stored, without warning. And, Gaza probably thought they were doing the right thing, electing Hamas. They wanted someone to be able to project their authority as a government. Hamas, though, has gone too far. Whim-caused bombing, terrorist acts, and evrything else he did helped to hurt the people of Palestine. Now its come to this, Israel bombing Palestine and Hamas getting angry and bombing back. Why no one is acting like an adult, forming the more than necessary negotiations to stop these innocent deaths escapes me.

 

They have sent numerous warnings. They have sent phone calls to every place they are planning to bomb, so they can evacuate. They even send leaflets. Recently, they dropped thousands of leaflets from the sky to warn that they will fight deeper into central Gaza. Israel is not there to kill innocent people, only to regain the land to prevent further attacks from that area.

 

Oh, I see. However, I never said Israel was their to kill innocent people, only that the majority of the deaths on both sides were innocent. Also, though this may be partial of me, perhaps if Israel allowed Gaza to freely exist on the condition that Hamas is arrested, his group disbanded, and a new, peaceful leader elected, probably one approved by Israel. Even though Isreal might not have its land back, at least fighting could be avoided.

 

Sorry. Just trying to make a strong point.

And that is not a good idea. Most of the world doesn't want Israel to exist, so if it appoints somebody to lead that Arab "nation," then the world will cry out saying that it is blasphemous and so forth. Really, I just think Israel should take it back. I mean, we gave electricity, food, water to the community, and the community attacks us with with guns blazing.

 

As far as I'm considered, Israel has free reign to do whatever they damn well please. Hamas is, as has been stated, a terrorist organisation with no right to demand anything. Israel has been under siege from virtually all of its neighbours since its formation and they have followed international laws and respected ceasefires while the other side has continued to fire rockets at them. Israel is simply defending its land and people from terrorist attack.

As for all of the ignorant comments stating that Israel is "bombing schools and mosques at random", they aren't. Every target has been identified by intelligence gathered and then struck. If Hamas choose to hide in schools and mosques then they will continue to be hit. Not Israels fault if Hamas are cowards and the people of Gaza (so-called "innocents) refuse to co-operate and hand in the terrorists. They are causing their own suffering.

 

INNOCENTS?! They are innocents. You cannot tarnish an entire country but for the actions of the few.

Israel is invading. How would you like it If I were to inVade you with my dog?!

 

I'll probably tick off any people that are all <3 <3 Israel or 'poor Palestinians' etc and I apologize ahead of time. I feel sympathy for the people and think at this time, both governments ought to be smacked down.

Israel has caused just as much bloodshed as the Hamas have. With leaders like Netanyahu and Sharon (who has a ton of blood on his hands especially), Israel has been more violent than it has had need to be. The Hamas are also a vigilant group that supports a lot of bloodshed.

If we though took tallies on who has lost more lives in the past years, the count would go to the Palestinians. Also, they have lost homes for no good reason. They've had tanks rolled over their places of dwelling, soldiers for years have shot people with -rocks-. This is not to say that there are enough cowardly Palestinians looking for their families to get some wealth and so they strap on bombs and go blow up civilian targets on the Israeli side. Hamas sadly gives much money to hospitals and education in that region. Israel is not handling matters right and in the end, should not because the territory should not be theirs to begin with. There were lines drawn in the past and Netanyahu has disobeyed them, Sharon has made things much worse and now Netanyahu again. *sigh* It is seriously time to make both Israel and the Palestinians follow an agreement that should have been settled years ago. Neither can honor lines that should not be crossed. Neither leaderships will stop encouraging violence and as long as Israel keeps insisting on assigning bloody killers as Prime Ministers and as long as Palestinians keep feeling that Hamas is helping them, there's not much anyone can do but sit and watch apparently.

Those who say Israel is innocent simply do not know the facts. Those who say the Palestinians are innocent are also blinded. In the end, the people who suffer are the civilians that are caught in the landslide on BOTH sides and right now, Israel is out of line and going to extremes which happens to be causing a ton of casualties in comparison to their significantly less numbered lives lost. They are hated by Arab countries, sure, but they are making themselves mistrusted and questioned by others now and the leadership does not care. There are people IN Israel protesting this pointless violence. That should say something that not all of Israel is for this ridiculous bloodshed that the leaders are committing. I believe Jews definitely have their right to their own country, but they really need to understand that the Palestinians do too and stop acting like they are clean of any violent charges themselves. Hamas does need dealt with...but so do the awful leaders the Israelis have been picking for their Prime Ministers.

 

Not as Severe!
If you weren’t watching the news lately
935 people died
280 of them were children and 100 of them were women
4293 people got injured
and you say that’s not severe
Were all of them helping Hamas hiding the rockets huh?
Was that how many Israel Civilians Died?
Human Shields!
Are you saying that all of those people died because Hamas used them as human shields!
That fact is WRONG. There is no way they would do that.
Hamas are Cowards?
Let me tell you something
Before Israel attacked Gaza
Israel knew they had no chance against Hamas
They made them starve
No food, water and Electricity
They let them be like that for months
Even their Government didn’t care
Those people lived like animals
Compare how Gaza are living and how Israel are living

Israel knew Hamas would be too weak to fight them
But they were wrong
After Israel began to Attack [ By Air ]
Bombing them
Bombs with Poisonous Gases
They wanted to kill everyone
Not just Hamas
Israel are the cowards
They just come inside Gaza Everyday
Kill alot of people and leave unharmed
they just bomb and leave
and after all what Gaza has been through
Gaza is still waiting
Hamas are still fighting
That’s what I call Hero’s
Oh and just to point out something
Israel Bombed School’s and Mosques we know that
and If Hamas was hiding rockets in school’s and Mosques
that would have resulted in a big explosion don’t you think?
They’re tring to get rid of the rockets only
But the truth is that they are bombing children

Hamas are People who live in Gaza
Born in Gaza
Its their home weather you like it or not
The truth is that Israel has no Home
They took Gaza by force
and don’t tell me about the past
that’s the past
Israel doesn’t have a TRUE home
Israel People in London and other places say they can go and live with them
They can live there in peace
One hit an empty Playground … Now that’s serious
If it wasn’t for Hamas
Gaza could have been wiped out
Israel hates Arab
and their goal is to get rid of them all
But every time they try
they fail
Like the war in Lebanon
and No messy
Give Gaza a Break
Hamas well win this Battle
Believe it

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You said that Hamas was not hiding weapons in Mosques. Take a look:

 

I think i asked you more questions then this
This Video did not change my thoughts at all
and i hope that wasn't you aim
They may have found rockets in a Mosque
But that still dose not mean that there are Rockets hidden Everywhere
Also i hope you have heard the news recently
Israel has just bombed a grave in Gaza
Now don't tell me that Hamas buried Rockets with the dead people!
This is just disgusting
Israel has caused so much bloodshed
MORE then Hamas
There is no Point of this Thread
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I'm not going to lock this, because if I locked threads every time someone had a different point of view then there would never be any threads left open for posting.

However I am just going to say one thing; not everyone will always agree with each other, especially with an issue such as this. No side is right and no side is wrong because really this is all down to personal belief and opinion, fighting each other on here wont solve or end the conflict.

I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but please at least respect that other people have theirs too.

I am not aiming this at anyone specific, more the thread in general.

 

It is very possible, the IRA hid weapons and ammo caches all over Northern Ireland. Many of them were buried in the middle of nowhere and I wouldn't be surprised if they used graveyards either. Last place anyone would look.

And even if there was nothing there, all of their attacks are based on intelligence which they have gathered. They wouldn't be the first country to act on false information, now would they ;)

 

Hamas, Israel, Hezbollah and all those other terrorist organizations need to go to hell.

 

Israel isn't a terrorist organization. It's a country.