Gay Marriage: Should it be allowed

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  1. The Lone Wanderer Twilight Town Denizen

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    I am all for Gay Marriage honestly. Let them do what they want. They are no different from heterosexual people. The true controversy about this is in states where EVERYTHING is traditional. Because religion is so important, they base everything off of it. Which is wrong due to separation of church and state.
     
  2. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    I don't think people get that seperation of church of state has actually shockingly little to do with this.
     
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    I cannot explain how angered I was and still am when I heard about Prop 8. What is the point? Is there a reason to barricade two people from loving each other? What makes them think this is right?

    Just.... URGH.

    I hope when my future children are in history class, the film Milk will be mandatory to watch.

    Stop the H8. ♥
     
  4. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Even as a (somewhat) devoted Catholic or Christian or whatever its called these days, I see no reason at all that marriage should only be allowed to straight couples.

    Who is to decide whether two people can be in love or not? What dictates what love is supposed to be? Was there some kind of book written to tell us how we can or can not express our feelings? Before someone pulls "lol the christians and their bible" on me, let me clarify something most people misconceive:

    I've heard all the bullshit about homosexuality being called wrong in the Bible, but when I read the specific verses about it, it was about a city of men who were molesting boy slaves. Now compare that to today's definition of a homosexual.

    I myself know quite a few gay or bisexual friends, and they're even less perverted and selfish then the straight people I know. Don't take this as my generalization of preferences though. It's just my way of saying that, through my own experiences, there is no difference between a gay and a straight person but who they allow themselves to love.

    Allow any human at the age 18 or older to be joined in matrimony. Else we're one step closer to Hitler's dream of an Aryan race, in which the "imperfect" are pushed aside.

    *Note how I said human. Bestiality is...well, I'll leave that for another story.
     
  5. JedininjaZC Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Do you mean that the seperation has little to do on Gay marriage in the world?
    Or do you mean that the seperation has little to do with Gay marriage in the United States?
    If you mean the United states could you please explain what you mean?
     
  6. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Easily. See, the church and the government, whether or not they can intertwine, each have their own views on gay marriage.
     
  7. Shizzy Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I think Gay Marriage should be allowed, because it is what the gay people want. Keeping marriage from them would be like keeping a toy from a kid.
     
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    Let's say I want to kill someone. Do we legalize murder?
     
  9. Shizzy Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Oh, I didn't think of it that way. I don't know then. B|
     
  10. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    See, the problem with gay marriage is that there's church marriage and legal marriage which are two entirely different things. Even with gay marriage legalized, the church would have to agree to marry two men or women.
     
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    That is probably the best argument I've ever seen.
    Short, simple, and it totally debased the other person's post
     
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    which probably would be a big fat no!
     
  13. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    Does gay marriage (directly) harm anyone in any way?
     
  14. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    I think the church wouldn't get involved...but the goverment should allow gay legal marriages, so then they would have the same rights a married couple should, and avoid monetary and/or Property issues in case of separation.

    I mean....you don't have to marry in a church to happy. I just don't think that public demostrations in front of children should be wise, because I think in the future nothing should affect their choice of partner. You know, that's just my view, but I think it's more a parents responsability to teach their kids about Homosexualism and Lesbianism. That would avoid any problems in the future because it's better to give the children a broader understanding.

    Since the church tries to guide itself from bibles...I don't think that should change, but the goverment should.
     
  15. JedininjaZC Hollow Bastion Committee

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    No, but it does bend the Christian ideal that marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman; which in my opinion is a small sacrifice for the happiness of gay couples.

    It doesn't matter, according to section one of the bill of rights
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

    Illegalizing gay marriage, because the bible says so is just like making a law that tells all members of the USA that they must go to church, because the bible says so.
    If we added Christian ideals to laws we would be suffocating other groups of people of lack of their of 'free exercise'.
    Illegalizing Gay marriage is just as dumb as making a Sabbath day law, so I suggest that instead of ignoring the bill of rights, we should embrace it with open arms as the founding Ideals of our government.
     
  16. childofturin Why?

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    Actually, TMMM made a very good argument. It just wasn't as long as many other posts here.
     
  17. JedininjaZC Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Ohhhhhhh, sorry it just took me a second to relize what he was talking about.
    I didn't understand, lol. :sweatdrop:
     
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    i totally agree with your statement here, and i fully support gay marriage in all states... but just to let you know, catholics ARE christians... catholicism is a form and branch of christianity :D
     
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    Completely and absolutely different. Two people of the same sex getting married is not hurting anyone. If you don't like it, just ignore it. It's not like they're going to break down your door and be like, "We're going to be gay in front of you! Yes, feel our wrath as we kiss in your presence! Do you feel the burn?"

    Nothing should ever be legalized because someone wants it, but gay people are being denied basic human rights. I can't imagine not being allowed to become legally united with someone I was in love with. It's wrong. Being gay is a huge part of who that person is. Murder, on the other hand, is a completely different story. That is wanting to take someone's life away from them. Murder spawns from hate, marriage is usually (or at least should be) about love.
     
  20. Nuff' Said Banned

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    yeah whatever happened to seperation of church and state.

    also if we did pass laws that go by the christianity beliefs. reffering to another post btw
    then this country would be no different from nazi germany.
    if this country did that.




    also who says that u have to get married in a church. get married on a boat. captains still have that power. either that or vegas
     
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