Gay adoption

Quoting you without spoilers because yours won't open. Apparently putting apostrophes in spoiler tags messes it up somehow? Anyway, I agree on this. I wanted to mention it, but couldn't find a way to word it. I agree completely.

I totally posted this like 12 posts earlier.

 

Well, I was raised by a single mom (at least, since my parents separated, which was when I was around 7 years old). And really, I never felt like I needed a father figure--I mean, financially, it would have been nice, but I never really felt that I was missing out on anything. The only occurrence that comes to mind is when there was a Father's Day celebration (or something of the sort) at my elementary school and everyone's dad was supposed to come along. My dad said he would but never did, so my mom got her dad at the last moment. But that's more my dad being a worthless **** than anything else. Regardless, my point stands: I don't think I lost anything by not having an active father figure for most of my life. Then again, I'm a girl raised by a mom. I imagine the situation would be different for a boy raised by a mom, or a girl raised by a dad.

But really, most people's home life/family is, in at least one way, messed up. If a same-sex couple can provide a stable household, help out a kid stuck in the adoption system, etc., then I don't see why they can't be given a chance. There are much, much worse heterosexual parents out there.

There is the issue of homosexuality not being fully accepted in society yet, but I think that letting kids know about it from an early age, understand that they're people too and aren't something to be shunned or feared, is the way to rectify that. Maybe it might be awkward explaining to your son or daughter why their parents aren't the same as everyone else's, or if you're straight, why Susie has two mommies, but such is life. Gay people are people too.

 

Why isn't this argument over then? o_o

 

You say that biologically we all come from two parents, this is undeniably true, but your presupposition of your biological parents being your natural family is false thinking. That is a socially influenced factor, not a biological one.

Indian family's are influenced by the norm of having a large extended family that supports one another in all situations. If both parents work for over 12 hours a day then it is the grandparents who normalise and socialise the children into society

Some African tribes where they have males seperated from the females for a minority of the day. At childhood, the children are purposefully separated to be put into either the male section for boys and female sections for girls.

There is no natural families only norm families that we are told and taught about.

 

This is what I meant to talk about, the conversation seems to have derailed a little bit. I know your opinion but to everyone else I'd like to drop the subject of the morality of gay adoption and discuss, is it better to be raised by a mother and a father, or by two parents? Does one have a definite advantage of the other? And if so, is it right to deny a child one when it could have the other?

 

No one can really say; that's viewing in extremes. There are disadvantages to every party; sure, the typical mom, dad, nuclear family is considered the 'norm' and you may have an advantage there, but given the amount of broken homes, divorces, etc., I can't say with any certainty that a child raised in that environment is better off than a child raised in a same-sex household.

As for denying the child the right to have the other... you can't choose who your parents are. Nobody can. That extends to orientation. You're dealt what you're dealt, and you've just got to learn to make the most of what you've got, even if something else may seem easier or better--which, by the by, grass is always greener on the other side.
awww yeah rhymin'

 

Even if it is better (which I doubt)... so what ? I' d rather be raised by rich and intelligent parents, see where I' m going with this ? I could throw statistics around that "prove", say, that white parents are preferable to black parents. I pulled that one out of my ass, but I' m pretty sure some people already gathered that kind of statistics. Once you start wondering what' s "better" you' re just begging for discrimination.

It' s not just about the kid' s rights, it' s also about the rights of those who wish to adopt. The question you should ask yourself isn' t "Is it better ?" but rather "Is it definitely bad ?", for instance people with a severe drug addiction are definitely a no-no to raise a kid. If you don' t have rock-solid proof that being X, Y or Z would be bad (i.e. damaging) for the child then you have no ground to deny XYZ people the right to adopt.

 

if u want my opinion, this is it. I've got a mate whos got same sex perents, but there all a loving family. He doesn't care he's got to dad's, as they both love him and would do anything for him. If he's trying to get a woman/girls adive, he usually asks me or another close girl mate so it's all good. Overall in my opinion if your gonna adopt i say go for it. =D