Gay adoption

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  1. Always Dance Chaser

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    I'd like to know what you think about this. As a bisexual, this is the one part of my sexuality that I still have struggles with.

    I want kids. I want them very much. And there is the possibility that I end up with a man. And if that happens, my only options for kids are adoption and surrogacy.

    However, I do not know if I am okay with the idea of two men (Or two women) raising a child. I tend to think that a child deserves both a mother and a father, and by adopting that child, I take away a possibility that the child could have that.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Noroz I Wish Happiness Always Be With You

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    I am very pro adoption/surrogacy.

    This is the most common reasoning for why two people of the same sex shouldn't be allowed to adopt. However, this has a very obvious flaw, but for some reason, people don't see it.

    This goes for single parents.
    If you are raised by a single parent, sure you do have a father/mother, but you don't get the parental or maternal "needs." I say "needs," because kids find role models everywhere, not only their parents.

    Homosexual couples are no less fit to raise a child than a normal couple. Bad parenting is projected on so many occasions, and you know what? If you adopt, you give a child a home. If you don't want children to have a home because he/she may have two fathers/mothers, I think you're ignorant and, to be frank, unintelligent. And even surrogacy, who the hell are you to say who can and can't have children? Sure, if the parents are abusive and addicted to heroin, it's one thing, but just as average parents? I don't care what your beliefs may be, religious, political, etc. if someone are fit to be parents, then they should be allowed to.
     
  3. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    I see no reason why a child should have both genders as parents. In my opinion, all a child needs is a loving guardian, ideally two. Saying a child needs both a mother and father is also a blow to people raised by single parents (maybe I'm biased since I was raised by a single mother), and I think that's a load of bull.
    [video=youtube;YZbqZ69_pC0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZbqZ69_pC0[/video]

     
  4. Always Dance Chaser

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    I was also raised by a single mother (For the majority of my life).

    I wish I was not. I often needed fatherly advice and had nowhere to go.
     
  5. jafar custom title

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    Nothing wrong with it. Thinking that a child deserves both a mother and father is wrong. A child deserves at least one parent who will love and take care of them.
     
  6. Always Dance Chaser

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    Provide support for this statement, please.
     
  7. jafar custom title

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    In the sense that as long as somebody is loving and taking care of them, that is what is important. I didn't explain it properly. my bad, g
     
  8. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    A child needs a stable family, it could be a conventional or unconventional family, but from what I've seen a child needs more then some idea of a perfect family (which is not manufactured by the gender of the members) butan actual down to earth, practical, emotionally comfortable and close family.

    If a same sex parental family can do it, then by all means do it. Each family is messed up in its own right, so by all means go ahead with same sex parents, they won't be any different.
     
  9. Amaury Chaser

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    Well, I can imagine it would probably be awkward for the child once they reached their teenage years to be raised by two women or two men, especially if they were straight, but I see nothing wrong at all with same sex couples adopting kids.

    It doesn't matter who raises the kids, it's how they raise them.
     
  10. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    If the kid was straight, you'd think there be problems?
    What about the common occurrence of a gay child with straight parents, you'd think they'd be less problems?
     
  11. Beau Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I don't know if my input is valid here, since I'm young. x:

    I believe it doesn't matter what two genders the parents are, in my opinion. As long as the child has a stable, safe environment with loving parent(s), it shouldn't matter if it's two males, two female, one male and one female, one female, or one male. It's all about the child, what matters is if it's loved and cared for.
     
  12. Accalia Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I see nothing wrong with same sex adoption. Adopting a child is a wonderful thing, and that child can have a nurturing home without a Nuclear Family.
    You wouldn't deny a child a home just because he or she won't be adopted by a Nuclear Family would you? Of course you wouldn't.
     
  13. Amaury Chaser

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    Well, no, I'm not saying there would be problems, I'm just saying that for some kids, especially once they start reaching their teenage years, when they know what sexuality and all those things are, it might be awkward.
     
  14. Beau Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Being a gay teenager with straight parents and siblings, I feel really uncomfortable around them sometimes. Especially when we're watching the teli and something involving homosexuality appears, I get really awkward and most times leave the room.

    So to answer your question, even though it wasn't directed towards me (I hope that's okay), there are no set amount of problems for a gay child with straight parents or a straight child with gay parents. Sure, it may be awkward for a straight teenager to realize he/she has gay parents, but that doesn't negate the awkwardness of a gay teenager with straight parents.

    This response was also somewhat directed towards Amaury as well.
     
  15. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Why would it be awkward exactly?
    Most gay people label themselves at first as straight before saying they are gay, since they are likely unsure or try to fit in during their teenage years. It's more likely that a gay couple will understand the feelings of exploring sexuality the. Some straight family's and could be more ready to deal with them and talk about them.
    It's more awkward, comparatively, that straight parents have to talk about their child's homosexuality then the other way round.
     
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    I wasn't planning on posting here if it didn't get any posts today. Since there has been posts, I'll just say what I have to think about it.

    Same sex adoption is perfectly fine. Especially when it beats the alternative of a kid having no home or being forced to live in terrible conditions. That's all there is too it, same sex adoption is a very good thing.


    Let me talk a little on another situation though. Let's say that we have two couples. Couple A and Couple B. Couple A is a homosexual pairing of either both male or both female people. Couple B is your standard heterosexual couple. Let's pretend that both couples have the same combined income and have similar jobs between all four of them. Let's also say that both couples hold people of average intelligence and (specifically for Couple B) are very open minded about the subject at hand. Therefore we won't have to worry about whether or not a kid would be raised to be homophobic just because he/she was raised by heterosexuals.

    So what am I getting at? Well my point is, that in very similar conditions I'd go as far to say that a kid would be better off being raised by the heterosexual couple. Why? Because it's natural. Heterosexuals are biologically superior to homosexuals(as in, we can reproduce while two humans of the same sex cannot). Note: I am coming from a biological standpoint here. If you're offended then I apologize but homosexuals cannot reproduce naturally. No matter how progressive you may be, you cannot deny that humans are naturally made with two members of the opposite sex. This is the only reasoning I have to back it up. I'm not going to resort with some completely stupid Bible thing saying, "it's against my religion" since I could care less about that.

    Also, with two members of the opposite sex acting as parents rather than two parents of one sex, you get a diversity that a homosexual relationships just might not have. No matter how effeminate(or masculine) one or both members of the homosexual couple are, they are still both male or female. That can make things awkward when a kid of the opposite sex goes through puberty(or whatever other sex-oriented things happen). It becomes harder for the child to speak with their parents about it simply because neither have gone through what that kid has(barring sex-change operations).

    With all that being said, I am fully supportive of same sex adoption. In the end, all that matters is for a child to have a home and a family that supports him/her.
     
  17. Amaury Chaser

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    Well, think about it. At young ages, a lot of kids don't mind being naked in front of their parents (such as after taking a shower), and sometimes when they notice something on their front area (male or female) or just have general questions, if they're at that age, then it would probably be awkward to show their parents that area since they like it because of the sexuality. Of course, parents couldn't do anything sexual, as that would be illegal, but it would still be awkward.

    I apologize if the above paragraphs sounds perverted or anything. I'm not trying to sound perverted, I'm just trying to explain myself.
     
  18. Beau Hollow Bastion Committee

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    But then wouldn't it still be awkward for a girl to show her father, or a boy to show his mother, since the parents "like it"?

    I just don't understand why you're neglecting the awkwardness involving straight kids in this situation.
     
  19. venster You never heard of me, but I pop in time to time

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    It is not bad for children to be raised by same sex couples..... Here's an example right here:

    [video=youtube;1VnEexIhBTU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VnEexIhBTU[/video]
     
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