For people who know christianity or are christians....

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  1. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    Did you ever think Final Fantasy VII is almost to Christiananity? Because The bible mentioned the promise land and the game also mentioned the promise land and instead The ancients/cetera are like the twelve disciples in the bible and then Sephiroth is almost like Satan -_-;; (Sorry to say that Sephiroth fans) and the death of Aeirs is almost like the death of Jesus.
     
  2. Xegreny Kingdom Keeper

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    And the killing of Aerith is like the death of Jesus? >_>

    I don't see the connection, but I never played FF7.
     
  3. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    .....yea!! Just watch cutscenese and that's all.
     
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    It does have some things to do with Christianity but more to do with Judaism or Kabbalah in particular. Sephiroth actually means the Orbs on the Tree of Life. The orbs are similar in concept to a yin and yang sort of thing but progressing and possessing knowledge of the orbs draws you closer to God in Kabbalah, for the very short abbreviated version of what it means.

    Aerith's death could be related to the death of Jesus if one thinks about it as well. She knew likely in the end she would have to sacrifice herself for Holy to work, just as Sephiroth had to die for it to kick off and end Meteor. The catastrophe also of what happened with Shin-ra and all doing corrupted things to the planet and the sort of Apocalyptic Judgment Day could also relate to the end details in the Bible.

    So yes, there were strong undertones in FF VII of Judaism, Kabbalah and Christianity definitely.
     
  5. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    Exactly my point! I need someone who works at Square-Enix and tell him/her to ask the director of that game why based on some religions.
     
  6. Atlas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Is it a problem that the game has jewish, kabbal...ish, and christian undertones? I understand if you're like athiest or follow a different religion it might be a bit weird for you but it doesn't make the game any less fun, does it?
     
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    Is that it, or did those religions just get in first?

    Almost anything can be linked to religion. It is the most well known piece of literature.

    Most things use a good and evil type plot. This generally can be traced to the bible.

    If I needed to, I could probably link a Sonic the hedgehog game to religion.

    I think it is not strictly based on it. There are traces, but I doubt intentional.
     
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    Well the bible is used for some of the biggest allegories in present day. It doesn't surprise me that you noticed that allegory in FFVII, though.

    In a way Aeris could be like Jesus. She's the healer, the kind one. But that was not like Jesus, also. Jesus was male, not female, and brought judgment with him. I don't think that's much like Aeris. o.o;
     
  9. Repliku Chaser

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    There's no problem with it. I think the person asked because it is an interesting thing to note. All of the FF games have things of religions in them. Just look at the Summons from each game or some of the character's names like Kuja, who is from Hinduism. Quezlcoatl is from the Aztec Quetzlcoatl, Shiva from Hinduism, etc. I find it interesting usually on how Nomura and others mix up the aspects of various religious intonations or characters mimic or share similar names to religious icons. It's pretty cool to me. It's just one of those things to notice.
     
  10. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    No no no. I just wnoticed and I'm christian and I'm not against any religions at all.
     
  11. Atlas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Oh okay. I'm thankful you aren't super-religious and full of ignorance like a certain someone who decides that the crap he spews from his mind onto the keyboard is fit for intelligent discussion. (i'm assuming that everyone knows who i'm talking about, and i apologize if this is considered flaming, i'll edit my post if it is)
     
  12. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    True there a lot of allusions to it (the promised land being the big one). But a lot of the references are from very different books (the Promised Land to the death of Christ is a large gap).
     
  13. Repliku Chaser

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    Really, the FF 7 people more fit with Judaism and Kabbalah than Christianity.

    Jenova - could be an altered name of Jehova in a way.
    Genesis - the first book of the Bible for Judaism and Christianity as well as it is 1 of 5 in the Torah etc.
    Sephiroth - Orbs on the Tree of Life. These orbs on the tree are meant to help people get closer to God...Sephiroth obviously wanted to 'become' a god.
    Cloud - could be referring to celestial heavens in a way.
    Aerith - has 'earth' implied in her name which is the base where humans of course and life dwells. She may have served as a prophet or Jesus sort of figure, or maybe a Moses sort of figure, leading people on a path.

    So to me, it kind of refers more to names taken from Judaism and Kabbalah which is an early form of Judaism. Also, another thing to note is the formula you see when Sephiroth casts Super Nova. Kabbalah is heavy in maths and symbolisms like that. This is not to say that Christianity is not also included since it has Genesis and the name Jehova. It just seems to me it does reflect the other two religions more though.
     
  14. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    I see. You have a point there. I should've paid more attention.
     
  15. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Wow. Very insightful. I didn't notice a few of these.
     
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    A very interesting analyzation, like all of your posts here. :)
     
  17. blue_neon Traverse Town Homebody

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    Maybe the creators based it on the bible or maybe it can be an accident you will never know LOL
     
  18. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    Well Tetsuya Nomura is a Japanese so I highly doubt he's christian and he may be a buddhist.