Finally I will be able to become a loli before I die

Think of the Leftists! No wonder the turn-of-the-century Communists were so reactionary.

 

That's what I was trying consider, disregarding my thoughts on people becoming semi-immortal. I mean if you have your brain downloaded into a computer, what dictates if that's your complete self? Just brainwaves and past experiences, if that can even be 'downloaded'. Would you really be you once said operation was completed? And even if you were immortal, someone could come along and decide to delete you from the computer or smash your brain or whatever. All just seems rather confusing..

I've been thinking a cross between the Matrix and that Star Trek episode with the aliens that were only brains, so we'd all become Providers with Arnold watching over us.

 

I highly doubt you would put onto a computer with open access to just anyone.
And that's considering if you're stored onto a computer, nowadays things are stored onto the internet anyway just to prevent that from happening.
As for the whole soul thing, there's no way to tell what happens as we cannot even perceive what a soul is let alone a consciousness.
If we go by what the Buddhist(IE the people who probably have the closest thing to perceiving a soul) say then the soul itself is not exclusive to the body so a body swap should not effect the soul.

 

Of course not. The only thing that can effect a soul would be when a person comes into being.

 

On the opposing side, that is all you will ever have, so denying it as just a possibility is also fallacious. Even if it is true, you will only be able to know that it is possible. So that does not discount its validity from the start.

But I get the feeling you are agreeing with me and I am just shorting myself out now.

 

You can still die in an accident, y'know. You might never die of old age, but you could potentially die in an accident. There's also no way this will be open to the public in our lifetime. Or rather, if it is available, it will be extremely expensive and none of us would be able to afford it.

It also makes you think about the overpopulation we are already headed too, what will happen if people start living for several hundred years?

 

Hey, it's still a step in the right direction, it's not perfect but it's definitely better then dieing at the age of 10 of some wacky ass disease.
Also what makes you think it wouldn't be open to the public? Do you really think people would be alright with knowing that artifical bodies exist but not being avaliable to them?

Speak for yourself
In the next 19 years I could very well be a millionaire if I play my cards right.

The over population thing is a problem and that's why we need to get to Mars already.

 

Obviously that kid doesn't deserve to live if he can't fight off some disease in his childhood. Death is a pretty natural part of life.

Several things. The morals that the western world has would mean that this thing would have to be tested for a very long time before being opened to anyone. Obviously they would not let anyone and their mum get a hold of this technology, and they would make some cybercops to protect it. Normal people can't beat a cybercop.

You could be, but it's unlikely that you'll be able to. You'll know what I mean in a couple of years.

So then, why not focus on that instead of this? Why not solve try to solve the overpopulation problem before trying to make it worse?

 

Death is only natural because we allow it be natural.
When we take control of nature we can decide what is and isn't natural and the idea that a 10 year old deserves to die because he can't fight off a disease would be obsolete.

Testing does not mean it won't be open to the public. It means it's being tested FOR the public.

Once again, speak for yourself. There's currently very little that could get in my way atleast for the next 6 years.

I dunno, ask Russia.
Personally I think that can just fix itself, people in Africa will eventually die off anyway.

 

You said people in Africa will all die off
Earlier you said death is only natural because you allow it to be.

Although technically you were talking about people like you. Okay that's fine.

 

Hmm?
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
I see death as a border no different then the sound barrier, it will eventually be overcomed and then we'll have new problems on the rise.
Until then though we can atleast use death to our advantage(ie weeding people out)

 

Like the ten year olds with diseases, right?

 

Using machines to aim for immortally won't save you from death. You're only extending it till something kills the machine.

 

And what to do with immortality?

I find it akin to children who can't wait to get out of school and do something, but when they are given a whole summer off, they can not be bothered to do anything with their lives and waste the summer away until they start school and go back into the same thinking.
When you have immortality, will you do anything with it? No, you'll think you have all the time in the world and waste it all the same.

Worse is that if you don't earn it yourself, you'll abuse the right you have. You will be immature for the power you now possess.

 

Anything that one wishes to do, they can do it. If something like this were to come into being, I would only choose to do it as a last resort to keep going. By then I would be able to see how it worked and I would have no better option. My choices are death or continued existence.

Is there a reason to choose to die when you can live? How is that different from suicide?

 

People do not choose death, they accept it.

We did not choose life, why should we choose on our death?

 

Because we are aware of death before it happens, but not life.

 

I support nature over man's hubris.

 

Well that comes down to a personal thing.

Hence the reason why overtime we've slowly upgraded into storing things into less physical things such as the internet.

Why not?
We live in a very chaotic world where death is an unpredictable inconvinence
Potential scientist, scholars, authors, political leaders, etc are all taken away due to untimely death.
Technological advancements not given enough life to bloom due to untimely death.
The balance between life and death is heavily in death's favor, it takes away more then it gives.

 

Doesn't mean its safe. You would leave yourself vulnerable to attacks.