No Thanks Few Words About The Spamzone

Discussion in 'Feedback & Assistance' started by Vanitas, Oct 15, 2009.

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  1. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Hi.

    I think that the spamzone as is should be removed. Either removed or changed.

    Too much nonsense, I do not see the point. Off-topic talk is fine, but when people make up topics with one word or sometimes just a picture is beyond any taste. Now, I see it is the most active section. No surprise. But it is just because it is so easy to send carbage there.

    The chance to send carbage in that section does not ensure that the carbage stays there. I think the attitude spreads to the whole forum, making any 'more-thought' topics seem boring.

    So if the point of the spamzone as is, is to get more posts, I think it could actually reduce the posts at the other sections. If the point is to have fun as an opposite for the other talk, I wonder does that make the other talk not fun at all?

    So is everything interesting put to spamzone, so everyone can have boring conversations about KH and other things?

    This is the reason that at least I do not like to spend time here, because it seems that the only so called humor and relaxed attitude is at the spamzone. Makes me inactive. I barely post. I might post at the spamzone for the boredom, but then again: It's carbage. :)

    NOTE: I am NOT talking about spamzone's content being too bad or anything like that. Im just comparing its content to the rest of the site.

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  2. The Graceful Assassin It's Just Like Christmas Morning

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    This site isn't just Kingdom Hearts ya know. There are a lot of sections here that aren't about Kingdom Hearts. This isn't needed at all.
     
  3. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Read that again. I barely mentioned 'Kingdom Hearts'. I think you read the first rows of the post and posted your quick opinion on the subject, but that's ok.

    For a quick description of my first post:
    -I think the spamzone as is, is making other sections' talk boresom
    -I think the spamzone talk is draining the fun from other topics
    -I throw a question: Why not make the other sections' talk more loose instead of centering the loose attitude to one section meant for spam?
     
  4. Fork These violent delights have violent ends

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    Well firstly, posts don't even count at the spamzone, so there's no reason to not have specific discussions outside of that section.
    Secondly, the spam Zone IS about plain fun. Not many forums have the feature, but it works here. It's just plain randomness, with mostly no harm.
    It's pretty much anything off topic that don't have anything to do with KH, Movies, games, etc.

    The other sections are all pretty active, and people still go there for reasons of these specific discussions, getting actual posts, etc.


    Also, It's spelled "Garbage". I would've taken this more seriously if it was spelled correctly.
     
  5. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    Assuming that carbage = garbage.
    We are not removing the spam zone. A lot of members come here to post there, and not all of it is tasteless. A majority of the threads are actually fine - it's the ones that are a problem that get the most attention, and it is dealt with anyway.

    There is no post count in the spam zone at all.
    And there is some pretty serious discussion in the rest of the forum, hence...the Discussion section.
    And the KH, Music, Video, hell ALL the other sections are active and have intellligent, thought out posts and topics in there.

    If we didn't have the spam zone, everything there would probably be put in a section of the forum that does have post count - and then it'd be spammed to hell regardless.

    Not everyone feels the same as you in regards to the spam zone.
    Yes, a lot of things that push the limits of the rules are posted, but we're going to be coming down harder on that and enforcing the rules.
    You don't have to go to the spam zone. There are a huge amount of other sections, subforums, and topics that you can post in about pretty much anything that interests you.


    What do you mean by "loose attitude" in other sections?
     
  6. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Yeah, but I think the talk at other sections is too boring. It seems to me that the only loose attitude talk is at the spamzone. What do you think of it?

    Ok, not my native language... I guess I just leave it with C so it stands out. :)

    This is what I want to tell. It's like as opposite to the playful spamzone, all of the other sections are dead serious. It's not fun at all to discuss to me. I dont need spamzone be erased. Just wanting to say that it seems that the rest of the forums are too serious and that might be because of the spamzone.
     
  7. The Graceful Assassin It's Just Like Christmas Morning

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    That's what the spam zone IS.
     
  8. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    It's because the topics in the other sections ARE serious.
    Discussion of current events =/= what I ate for dinner.

    If we allowed for other sections to be more "loose", there would be spam everywhere. Which is a problem. And why we have the spam zone.
     
  9. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Ok, so you have not understood me. I haven't been clear enough.

    So Im barely using spamzone. Im sayin that it affects the rest of the forums. Have you not noticed the seriousness at other sections? Is it really great to talk that seriously about KH and other topics?

    Okay, so if you have your own perfectly shaped opinions about everything and you are so well right, then do what you want. Im just saying. This is the reason I'm always inactive and I think this reason applies for many other. And since I see stuff happening at here on high levels of authority too, something is going on.

    I have said everything I have about this topic. Im waiting for posts that do NOT bash my opinions... Darn at opinion bashing. In case you do not get what it is:

    Opinion 1 quoted:
    'No, this is because this and that is cool the way it is.'
    Opinion 2 quoted:
    'No, this is because this and that is cool the way it is.'
    etc.
     
  10. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    While its agreeable that a major reason people come online is to go into the spamzone, you're forgetting that members who mainly stay in the KH sections/other sections still spam every once in awhile. The spamzone provides an outlet for people who simply want to spam/chat/get to know other people and since it is there, in return people spam less in other sections. Removing the spamzone would either result in

    1. People leaving the site
    2. People turning another section into a spamzone

    And neither of these are good. You also have to take into account that kh games are not coming out everyday, meaning during the times of games being released and still in production (which can last for years after BBS comes out) without the spamzone things would get pretty damn slow. Those times are already slow enough.

    You say that off topic talk is fine, but usually the best events in the spamzone would be unacceptable (or spam) written in any other section, even if the talk was looser in those sections.

    Question Time or KH-Vids User Awards in any other section? It doesnt work out. (And these things aren't Intelligent-Discussion worthy).

    So maybe the other sections are a little less fun. Any radical change to the site (as in removing the spamzone as is) would probably ruin the site. KHV has been getting by fine "as is."

    Besides, making any of the other sections looser would result easily in them turning into other spamzones. The one thing about our current spamzone is that while they are still monitored by staff, unless someone starts a flame war or posts porn, they don't have to do much about the content in the spamzone because, as you said, its meant for things that are "carbage."

    Do you know how much harder it would be monitoring the other sections, where posts do count if things were looser? They would have to re-define the rules of each section, and constantly have to delete posts/give warnings/ban people when these rules are broken.
     
  11. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    Ignoring the hypocrisy in this post, YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE SPAM ZONE.
    There are a **** ton of threads, sections, etc. that you can post in that don't have to be related to the spam zone at all.

    Yes it is actually, it proves that people have intelligence and can discuss things civilly.
    I'm curious, what kind of less serious discussion would you want?

    ...What do you mean by this?
     
  12. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    You can always talk non-seriously about KH and other topics in the spamzone. It still happens.
     
  13. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I'd allow humorous posts that are on-topic unless they break the rules. Also the atmosphere that I talk next:

    I see lot of hate here and a user who is banned =D it's like that each topic with some words thrown at each other, there is someone banned. I feel the forum atmosphere really tense outside of the spamzone.

    Yea! =) But I see it is not so interesting there. Id post more positive 'crap' at the real KH-sections, but I fear Im banned the next day =D (read the above text)
     
  14. The Graceful Assassin It's Just Like Christmas Morning

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    It's other people's actions. We can't force them to stop.
     
  15. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    ...There are posts like that.
    It depends entirely on the topic being discussed.

    Anyone that's banned is usually banned because of posting something inappropriate, getting too many infractions, or making an alt. account.
    Most of that drama happens in the spam zone.
    Almost never in any othe section because hey, guess what, SERIOUS TOPICS ARE BEING DISCUSSED THERE.

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  16. Fayt-Harkwind Where yo curly mustache at?

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    Other than the points others have mentioned about the spamzone being optional and non-post count there is the added fact that it's a way for members to get to know each other better than they would do by discussing current affairs or shooting some all powerful magic attack in an RP. Esentially, it's just where you can go nuts and have hardly any repercussions as long as you follow the rules. But if your the serious business type then you can just stick to which ever sections appeal to you most, when I first started posting I didn't leave the RP arena for a month or so.

    Besides, i've seen plenty of other sites that have something like our spamzone and it's just the same for them as it is us, off topic, full of internet jokes and (as half of them name themselves after) insane.
     
  17. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Some people like me think the spamzone is too 'insane' and then what? Only serious topics, huh?

    So you also admit that the outside of spamzone is TENSE/SERIOUS. That's what I think too. Doesn't that suck?
     
  18. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    Dear god no, that's not it at all.

    You don't have to post anywhere to be honest. If you have something to say in a thread that's in a different section, by all means, go for it.

    For one, I don't know how you can sense atmosphere on an internet forum, but that aside, no, it's not tense at all.
    I'm not even sure what you're suggesting anymore, you say you want the spam zone removed but then you don't, and now you want other sections to be less serious so it's equal to the spam zone?
     
  19. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    In my long, repliku-like speech I mention that making sure members write humorous posts would only result in staff having to work like crazy.

    As for that second paragraph...what? I'm confused there.

    And its not that regular spammers resent the other sections, its just that most of what is talked about in the kh sections, even in the newer ones, have been mentioned/talked about already. Believe me when I say this, pretty much every regular spammer in the spamzone has been a regular to the other kh sections. Its just that, when you see a thread about something already discussed, you don't want to discuss it again.



    ...
    just a small thought: you don't get banned for spamming. I mean, unless you keep doing it, but even then that might just result in a warning.

    And it doesnt matter if you dont see the spamzone interesting...you can always post your own threads to make it "interesting" or talk about what you want humorously on msn or something.
     
  20. The Graceful Assassin It's Just Like Christmas Morning

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    Why do you want the sections to be like the spam zone? If they did, there would be MASS CHAOS.
     
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