Existence of Ghosts: Yes vs No

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  1. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    But you just stated your imagination is one "heck of an imagination". From that I gather you have a rather large one. So why wouldn't your powerful brain be able to conceive something that you find 'out of the ordinary'?




    But gravity is way different. To the extreme. Because no matter how many times you drop an apple it will always hit the floor. No one ever claimed to have seen one aim skyward when the dropped it, did they? Sure ghosts aren't impossible to prove, but in my opinion they are, because people misconceive many things as something different. Like when you see a coat stand with a hat on it you may get scared and run away because you think it's a person. When in reality, it was a said coat hanger with a hat.




    Of course we can't prove either way. But arguing is fun to do about this subject, right? xP
     
  2. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    *Being pedantic*

    Well you can't physically see the air but it exists! Heck you can't see me so how do you know I exist? Sorry but the whole "until I see it wont believe it" argument is flawed :) no offense



    Fair enough I see where you're coming from lol it's hard to explain so Ill agree to disagree on tha point!


    lol them hangers can be frickin scary at times you know? lol true it's different but I wasn't claiming it to be the same I was using it as an example of how we discover things all the time that previously we had never thought possible :)
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    lol something I really agree with! lol I like arguing with you!
     
  3. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    That is very true, but we know air exists because it has microscopic molecules called 'oxygen' and 'hydrogen'.

    But what about Ghosts? You can't put your hand out and touch one, but you can with air since it has atoms.

    I can't see you, yes, very much so I can't. But I know there is something over there since how else would you respond to my posts? =P

    And seeing is believing is very flawed. But that doesn't mean it isn't logical enough for one such as myself to believe in. =\
     
  4. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    Wrong. You can prove that there are moles of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, etc. that do infact exist and make up the atmosphere. Now prove to me that there is a logical explanation for an existance of ghosts.
     
  5. Zandyne King's Apprentice

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    *somewhat playing the devil's advocate*

    I'm surprised that no one has brought up, "don't you ever wonder why sometimes animals will at random be doing unnatural things one moment then return to whatever they were doing the next."

    ie: A nomally loud and excited dog will cease his cheerful greeting to stare at the space behind you for no reason, then suddenly return back to nomral. (given this isn't typical or recurring behavior)
     
  6. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Here's one logical way, Zandyne (cool name. Haha), the dog might have seen something behind you, such as a book shelf and misinterpreted it as a person.

    I don't see why that wouldn't make sense. :/
     
  7. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    Right, it's usually just a bug or something. I think you guys watch too many movies...=\
     
  8. Spike H E R O

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    Here's an opinion:Every human being has an electrical aura-type of thing.Sometimes when a Radio does'nt work you get close to it,it gets better.Or if you're TV is screwed up and you touch it, it gets better.Who's to say that the energy sort of leaves your body and does things when you die.Like,it leaves traces of itself that are invisible to the naked eye.Also,when I put my guitar cable into the amp,I clutched the plug-end of the jack in my hand and the amp let out a static sound.
     
  9. Zandyne King's Apprentice

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    I personally don't believe it (that specific interpretation), but just to play the devil's advocate, I wanted to throw it out there. (No harm in trying to find every angle after all right?)
     
  10. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    Silver_bullet I like your interpretation! It's an interesting one :D


    A bug??? That is the explanation for the animal thing? How many dogs do you know that get freaked by bugs?? or bookcases come to think about it *eyes bookcase behind her suspiciously* :eek: and hey I do watch a lot of movies, but I don't think that has any sway since otherwise I would also believe I have magical powers and and that I can be an expert in martial arts by watching one guy fight so on and so forth ! :rolleyes:


    Hehehehehe how do you know you can't feel ghosts? You can't actually feel the air, you only know you can because of your knowledge of atoms and molecules!

    :p hehehehe true enough point, but there are other people you're not talking to, but they exist right?

    Hmm fair point I guess you find it odd I believe in ghosts so I'm not going to judge you for believeing that theory, however flawed I find it!



    I think science is amazing, there are so many things it has proven, so many questions it has answered, such as molecules and atoms! Lol but then as I keep saying (and no I'm not a repetitive person I just think it's a valid point :P) science evolves.


    Oh really? And how did we discover molecules etc etc? Hmmm scientists looked more closely at the world around them, they went in depth and found them, I'm not disputing the reality of the air, (lol that would be slightly too out there even for me), but just because we haven't found the evidence yet doesn't mean you can discredit the existence.

    Besides scientists used to believe the atom was the smallest thing possible.....until they split it! There is so much that we, as humans, have yet to understand, so unless you can prove me 100% wrong then I'll stay following my belief. Again I can't give you proof as such and in all honesty I prefer the fact that no-one is just agreeing with me to shut me up! But then again you can't give me proof that they don't exist!.
     
  11. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Not quite, even before I learned about atoms I could feel air. On a breezy day when I could put my hand outside the car and feel the wind push against my hand. How is that not feeling thin air?

    And I know I'd never be able to feel a ghost because I know they don't exist (IMO). Any skeptic would report never seeing, feeling, or even remotely sensing the presence of a ghost.



    Precisely. It works both ways. XD



    Didn't I just say or imply I didn't believe it?
     
  12. Peyton Goddess Of Love ♥

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    I belive that they exist and that is MY choice.
    It's to much odd stuff happening all over earth that they cannot exist.
    It's so much unexplainable for them not to exicst.
    To be frank I belive in them because of all the weird stuff that happens and all the scary stories and theories that not even scientists can explain.
    I may think sometimes that it have to do very much with dead peoples prescence.

    But sometimes when I am fed up with this I don't even care to think about it.
     
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    I believe in ghosts. I can't explain why - but I do believe something happens after you die. I've had my own share of experience, I heard someone singing in my house pretty darn loud when I was home alone. My house is small so its real nerve wracking. I didn't find the source, no TV radio anything...but anyways...

    I think they are real, but that's just me. =]
     
  14. AlexleHoshi Dude called Alex

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    I'll say yes, since when I was 15 I started to see them, then last year I started to hear them.
     
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    whoa - my friend sees and hears them too. Its pretty freaky, but pretty cool. She said she's met a lot of ....colorful ghosts.
     
  16. Alpha Sonix Why so asymmetrical?

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    Yes, I see ghost in my dreams. When I wake up sometimes I see ghost everywhere, the same as I see dead people. I don't know if it's my imagination or not. They just there, chasing me, maybe I watch too much scooby Doo.
     
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    It happens to me too.
    It's just your brain getting used to the dark.
     
  18. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    Lol of course they wouldn't! They're skeptics! Yeah I see your point how you can feel the breeze (lol I used to get in trouble for putting my hands out the car windows :o ), but you can't all of the time! Maybe there has to be a certain situation before you can feel the presence?


    Sorry my mistake I thought you were implying it was a logical argument for one such as yourself to follow! lol my bad!
     
  19. Link Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Honestly i do think they exist im saying this because there have been lots of stories about people seeing ghost.

    And there is also a lady i forgot her name but she cantalk to ghosts i think i saw her on montel.

    So altogether i do believe in ghosts
     
  20. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    I don't know about you guys, but I hope ghosts, int he traditional sense, exist. If afte death, i get to hang around the planet for all eternity, well that'd be awesome. Eventually it'd be a pretty sad existence, but I would accomplish a cool dream of mine. To see the end of the world, and everything leading up to it.
     
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