Evolution vs Religion

I have to stick with Evolution more.

There's more proof, and it JUST MAKES SENSE.

The whole Religion things seems very nice to believe, but I just can't see the whole 'make Earth in 7 days' thing.

 

iPraise I am seriously getting sick of you right now, all you do is challenge somebody's post and attack it without even showing any evidence to prove your reasons. I've noticed that mostly all the people who go against what you say have proven FACTS. You have posted nothing. So if I were you I'd either find some cold hard facts to prove yourself or just shut the **** up.

And me I go for evolution just because it has been proven. We have cold hard facts to explain how we have evolved. We have bones from thousands of years ago that show proof that humans have evolved.

Religion is just an escape in my opinion. Back then when humans actually were able to comprehend things, they didn't know how to explain things like the sun or fire or other puzzling things. So they came up with gods to answer the questions. Plus their are numerous other gods that were around before Jesus (which seems to be the favorite around here) and it sickens me that people critize other's beliefs but cry like a little ***** when you say something about Jesus not being the only god. Do I believe that he may have been real? Yea. Do I believe that he's a god? No. It's called a magician people, lots of people have done it too. There are many so called gods that follow the same characteristics. So why can't they all be real. Why can only Jesus be the only god when people worshiped hundreds of others before him.

And iPraise, it took thousands of years for us to eventually develop the english language. Before we basically communicated with either grunts or drawings, which eventually became writings, and then finally a true spoken language.

 

well im going to post my veiws here right quick i go to a christain school and i have read the bible and i have heard from preachers and so on and from what i have seen in science it makes alot of sense my personal belief is cration through evolution i believe something (God) made the matter and started life then the universe slowly developed and humans evolved and all that
basically God made the stuff then big bang blah blah blah earth blah blah blah humans
i beleve in God but not in the religeous(sp?) sense

 

Most people convert to a religion before they die out of fear of what may happen to them if there is an afterlife. My friend's father was an Athiest and before he died he converted to a religion (forgot which) to hopefully repent and be able to live in some form of heaven out of fear that he was going to the suck part of the afterlife.

Which to me makes you a complete hypocrite and a coward.

 

Actually, the story that Darwin converted is false. Mostly because he WAS a Christian Diest 'till the day he died. Also, here's proof that the bedside conversion was false.

 

There's more complexity behind that. You can't ignore one aspect of evolution in order to ridicule another. Evolution is a gradule process that occurs over millions of years. The ability to produce sound was already present-- apes could/can "ook ook" if you will. The vocal mechanisms simply become more complex to allow great and higher forms of resonation. the jaw line, lips, and tongue also underwent change to accomodate speech. Your rebuttal doesn't take into account all of the subject.

 

I put more trust in science, and evolution because it has the evidence religion just can't provide.

If anyone want's a good example of evolution look at a dog. Human controlled evolution, but still evolution. We have taken the wolf, and over time with selective breeding have turned it in the Chihuahua, bulldog, and Great Dane.

Definitely my own opinion here but I see organized religion as an outdated system for controlling an uneducated populace in ancient times. It's a bunch of fairy stories the ancient people used to explain what they could not understand, and in many cases used to justify the slaughter of other peoples. Just the same as the mythologies of the Greeks, Egyptians, Norns.

At the same time I think faith is a very important thing, whether it's in a religion or science. People need something to believe in and hold on to, or what's the point?

 

I am tired of every body saying that Christianity has no sience in it.
well FYI heer is a couple of verses that actually say stuff about Atomic Fusion, ocean Currents, Hydrogen Cycle, jet streams, Dinasaurs, and innumberable stars. I show you.

Atomic fusion
II Peter 3:10-10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

Ocean currents
Psalm 8:8-8 the birds of the air,
and the fish of the sea,
all that swim the paths of the seas.
Isaiah 43:16-16 This is what the LORD says—
he who made a way through the sea,
a path through the mighty waters,

Hydrogen Cycle
Job 36:27-27 "He draws up the drops of water,
which distill as rain to the streams.
Amos 9:6-he who builds his lofty palace [a] in the heavens
and sets its foundation on the earth,
who calls for the waters of the sea
and pours them out over the face of the land—
the LORD is his name.

Jet Stream
Ecclesiastes 1:6,7-The wind blows to the south
and turns to the north;
round and round it goes,
ever returning on its course.

All streams flow into the sea,
yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
there they return again.

Dinosaurs
Job 40-The LORD said to Job:

2 "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!"

3 Then Job answered the LORD :

4 "I am unworthy—how can I reply to you?
I put my hand over my mouth.

5 I spoke once, but I have no answer—
twice, but I will say no more."

6 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm:

7 "Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

8 "Would you discredit my justice?
Would you condemn me to justify yourself?

9 Do you have an arm like God's,
and can your voice thunder like his?

10 Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor,
and clothe yourself in honor and majesty.

11 Unleash the fury of your wrath,
look at every proud man and bring him low,

12 look at every proud man and humble him,
crush the wicked where they stand.

13 Bury them all in the dust together;
shroud their faces in the grave.

14 Then I myself will admit to you
that your own right hand can save you.

15 "Look at the behemoth, [a]
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.

16 What strength he has in his loins,
what power in the muscles of his belly!

17 His tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

18 His bones are tubes of bronze,
his limbs like rods of iron.

19 He ranks first among the works of God,
yet his Maker can approach him with his sword.

20 The hills bring him their produce,
and all the wild animals play nearby.

21 Under the lotus plants he lies,
hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow;
the poplars by the stream surround him.

23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed;
he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes, [c]
or trap him and pierce his nose?

Job 42-1 "Can you pull in the leviathan [a] with a fishhook
or tie down his tongue with a rope?

2 Can you put a cord through his nose
or pierce his jaw with a hook?

3 Will he keep begging you for mercy?
Will he speak to you with gentle words?

4 Will he make an agreement with you
for you to take him as your slave for life?

5 Can you make a pet of him like a bird
or put him on a leash for your girls?

6 Will traders barter for him?
Will they divide him up among the merchants?

7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons
or his head with fishing spears?

8 If you lay a hand on him,
you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

9 Any hope of subduing him is false;
the mere sight of him is overpowering.

10 No one is fierce enough to rouse him.
Who then is able to stand against me?

11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
Everything under heaven belongs to me.

12 "I will not fail to speak of his limbs,
his strength and his graceful form.

13 Who can strip off his outer coat?
Who would approach him with a bridle?

14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth,
ringed about with his fearsome teeth?

15 His back has rows of shields
tightly sealed together;

16 each is so close to the next
that no air can pass between.

17 They are joined fast to one another;
they cling together and cannot be parted.

18 His snorting throws out flashes of light;
his eyes are like the rays of dawn.

19 Firebrands stream from his mouth;
sparks of fire shoot out.

20 Smoke pours from his nostrils
as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.

21 His breath sets coals ablaze,
and flames dart from his mouth.

22 Strength resides in his neck;
dismay goes before him.

23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined;
they are firm and immovable.

24 His chest is hard as rock,
hard as a lower millstone.

25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified;
they retreat before his thrashing.

26 The sword that reaches him has no effect,
nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.

27 Iron he treats like straw
and bronze like rotten wood.

28 Arrows do not make him flee;
slingstones are like chaff to him.

29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw;
he laughs at the rattling of the lance.

30 His undersides are jagged potsherds,
leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.

31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron
and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.

32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake;
one would think the deep had white hair.

33 Nothing on earth is his equal—
a creature without fear.

34 He looks down on all that are haughty;
he is king over all that are proud."
Psalm 74:14-14 It was you who crushed the heads of Leviathan
and gave him as food to the creatures of the desert.


Innumbreble stars
Jeremiah 33:22-22 I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars of the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore.'

Enough Proof for you!

 

Yeah, I agree.

The Earth was made from rocks thing is really weird and confusing.

And, so you'll know, non-religious peoples,
God is not like us, so that's why he created the Universe in seven days.

End of story.

 

what does that have to do with atomic fusion?

 

Peter 3:11-13
11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[a]That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

 

that still dosen't say anything at all that makes it seem like an atomic bomb for all we know it could be reffering to a Trebuchet(sp?).

 

What is a Trebuchet????

 

here i dont fell like explaining
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet

 

Thanks, but what that does a Trebuchet have to do with anything.

 

it could be what weapon your verse was refering to, it said rain fire from the heavens a Trebuchet can throw or "rain" down flameing objects it was also around in biblical times and was used in the area around isreal im saying what it mentions is not an atomic bomb but a Trebuchet or another weapon around in his time

 

Sorry I got one part of my reseach Wrong.
What are you going to do sue me? Calm down just joking.

 

It's like looking at the prophecies of Nostodomus, it's all up to interpretation.
Everything there can either be interpreted in another way, or was something that was obvious with out scientific study. Ocean currents, and the jet stream were common knowledge among sea faring people, and people would obviously see there were to many stars to count with out having anyone tell them.
#1 might be talking about a volcano, or any other natural phenomenon that causes fire.
#5 is not talking about dinosaurs at all, it's talking about the leviathan which is about as real as a unicorn. The legends of leviathan may be based on fossils the ancient people might have found just as many other mythological creatures are believed to be, but that is not proof they knew about dinosaurs.

In any case there is no evidence for the world being created in 7 days. Which is what I was talking about. The people for creationisim haven’t even been able to disprove the evidence of evolution.

 

Completely subjective in interpretation. An explosion of the elements implies nothing of atomic fusion (the elements referred to in that verse are the four "natural elements" which in themselves are not actual elements), water being brought up and back down as rain explain the function of percipitation to a bare minimum.

 

The Bible never says the word dinosuars in it but it does mention dragon like creatures, if you put your head to it, it does sound like dinosaurs. Also what evidence! it s just random ideas, try brining somthing to the table before brining someone ideas down!