Evolution vs Religion

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  1. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    I fully agree! Normally your posts irritate me a little (no offence :D)but I actually agree with everything you just said, only thing is a little too agressive! sorry! lol Im a peace person
     
  2. Kingdom Glory Banned

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    I'm not denying the Holy Spirit.
    The Holy Spirit is also named the Holy Ghost but it's not a ghost in the sense as it is a dead human/animal being.
     
  3. Zandyne King's Apprentice

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    Since you are still on this train of thought, rather then respond, I shall redirect you to a more Topic-appropriate location Ghost Debate Thread.

    Thank you for your time.
     
  4. Jest Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I once saw an interpretation of how God made earth in seven days according to evolutionary standards.

    I believe in both religion and evolution, there's no point in choosing. I believe that it all came down to one source, and that source is God. Just my opinion.

    EDIT: Furthermore, to dwell a bit on that...I do believe in God. I'm not sure if he's (if he's a he) a physical or non-physical entity, I just believe there's some sort of higher power. Maybe it's not even what we think it is. But I believe there's something higher than us that would be called the true God, so to speak. And I don't think he has any personality or anything, I just think he's there.
     
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    thank you! that was what i was going to say.
     
  6. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    Well that's just Theological Evolution. Most Theologians and many Priests as well are open to such an idea.
     
  7. John Clay Rice Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Oh come on monkeys evolve into humans? That sounds like a 4 year old storybook and Darwin died a christian saying that he was wrong about that evolution crap.
     
  8. Kingdom Glory Banned

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    Thanks for trying dude, but they won't listen unless you give cold hard FACTS.
    Though, it's good to see people on my side a bit. D:
     
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    Evolution makes sense, but there's still so many gaps that could still proove it wrong. Being catholic, I'm going to have to go and say that I believe what the bible says...and that God created everything that exists on this planet today.

    Of course, whoever says they believe in both is simply amazing...because that's the other answer I'd give if I wasn't feeling so square right now.
     
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    To me evolution makes no sense.How did all of a sudden there was a huge explosion? i dont get it.How did we evolve from Monkies? and the human fossils are just fossils of early humans not monkies.I belive in Religion and explain Jesus how did he come back to life?
     
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  12. John Clay Rice Hollow Bastion Committee

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    You're talking to me right? And I'm glad to be on your christian side. God bless us all. Even those who don't believe in him and sins.
     
  13. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    You don't need to believe in God to have a concept of sins and wrong doing, thats like implying that all non religious people have no morals! But that is not for this thread ^^



    It is my belief that evolution is what occured, I don't like the idea that fossils and other remains which pre-date the religious creation time were put there as a test. True the course that I am doing makes me a little biased but then I guess all the beliefs in this debate are biased in some way whether through religion or just personal belief.

    Reasons why I believe the evolution theory:

    1) the fossils and other remains that indicate a changing and adapting race.

    2) Evidence for evolution in other species (not just humans) that can be seen for example in Giraffes and their fossilised remains, horses are a very clear example too showing a clear adaptation over a long period of time.

    3) Much of the theory behind evolution has its basis in evidence that goes far beyone the time frame given by religion.


    I am not saying that I dis-believe in God or religion, maybe a higher power set evolution in process, who knows? But I do not think that any race or species was just created as it is ^^ IMO
     
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    1: That's the big bang. It has NOTHING to do with evolution. Everything did not EXPLODE then become perfectly aligned. It was a gradual process through gravity. Also, if God exists, why can't "Let there be light"="Let there be the big bang"?

    2: We didn't. We evolved from ape-like hominids. Every generation or so there is a mutation in the gene pool. If that mutations helps the animal survive, it will reproduce more often and then those same genes would be pased on.

    3: Kind of. More like early hominids. Like the Australopithecus. It looked very much like a chimp, yet always walked on two legs, and was intelligent.

    4: Jesus is a rip off from the Egyptian sun god, Horas. Born from a virgin on December 25, addorned by three kings who followed a star in the east, became a teacher at 12, babtized at 30 (in Egyptian religion), performed miracles such as raising the dead and walking on water, had 12 disciples, betrayed by one of his disciples, crucified, ressurected three days later. Sound familiar? Look it up.
     
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    Actually, the Big Bang DID happen, I believe, but it wasn't by two molecules coming together, it was God creating the universe and all in it.
     
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    "Two molecules coming to together?" That's not what the big bang theory states. It states that all matter in the universe was once in one tiny spot. It then expanded, and gradual formed the universe that we know today.

    Think of it this way: God created all matter, and it 'sploded. He sat back and watched the universe grow. When humans came around, he gave them the soul, or whatever. That's the most widely Diest theory.
     
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    But we still didn't evolve from "ape-like-hominoids" or whatevah you called it.
     
  18. Mirai King's Apprentice

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    Then I will make a simple text version of part of the geological timescale:

    Humans
    Humans + Neanderthal
    Erectus
    Ergaster
    Habilis
    Australopithecus
    Early Apes

    Tell me why each one is before the other in order of intelligence. Also, the distribution is perfect for concluding that we came from them.
     
  19. Kingdom Glory Banned

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    Are you saying we walked around going:
    "Ook ook ook!"
    Then eventually started english?
     
  20. Mirai King's Apprentice

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    We're not sure as to when, where, and how language came up. But, that's how science works. We need to find out.
     
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