Equality?

Do you believe in equality? That all humans are created equal? Most christians believe so and I am a christian but on my way home from working out I began to ponder if all humans are truely equal. Some are born rich, some obtain status, and some spend thier lives trying to get to the top yet never even scratch the surface. Some are smarter or have more common sense. Some or crippled or have a mental illness. Some are given potential and work hard to build on it while others waste it. Tell me, do you believe in equality?

 

Evolution says no, no one is born equally. The weak die and the strong remain to breed. However, morally, we need to treat people equally even when we aren't. Morally, it's up to those who are strong to help the weak.

 

I'm not exactly sure see people when born can have great potential but their parents could be wanted in several different counties and be as poor as hell and some people are born with some kind of sickness that can kill them at birth or mess their lives up.

 

I believe the theory of 'the strong remain and the weak die' is true. But I also believe that theory applies more to nature than to human civilization, although it did apply to humans many many years ago. Now that our economy is mostly balanced, I don't believe it applies as much anymore.

As a Christian, everyone is created equally, but to remain equal you must make the right choices. To become successful, you must work hard. If not, no, you are not truly 'equal' anymore.

I am Christian, but I believe you are created equal, but you must make the right choices to remain a good and balanced person.

 

But what about those who are screwed right of the bat? People who are disabled or are mentaly retarted?

 

No one is equal, not really. Under the law theoretically we are, but outside that it's a free for all. It's like Ghetto said, some are smart some are dumb, some are lazy some are diligent, if that's equal then equal means something entirely different from what I knew. Anyways, people as a society can't be equal 'cause everyone's always trying to get one up on someone else. Well, not everyone but close enough to it. Either way, equality isn't the greatest thing ever, if everyone is dead they're all equal, actually even then they are remembered differently.

 

Yeah, your right. They never had a chance.

I guess we are all equal, no matter what the choices we make. But some of us are more 'successful' than others.

 

You're right, the invention of medicine and surgery, as well as wellfare, insurance, the police, have all abstained evolution in humans because it has destroyed any form of natural selection that may take place. There are humans that are born crippled, who are nurtured and cared for their entire lives. In the wild, they would die quickly and swiftly, leaving only the best and the brightest to pass on GOOD genetics, when if you were born crippled, there was probably something wrong with your genes or you have a disease that may get pass on.

 

I believe we are all equal. All of us are human beings, no? If some of us are not, then we are not equal. Like animals trying to communicate with their master or human.

 

Not trying to attack you here, but I don't see how success is the factor that determines our genes. We can't controll what family we are born into, and we cannot select our genes out of the gene pool since some genes and traits are more dominant than others. My family has a history of cataracts(sp?) and diabetes but that has nothing to do with how successful I am.

 

You misundrstand me. A genetic code has nothing to do with what choices you make.

I didn't even start on a topic on genes. A normal person like you and me (without disabilities or handicaps) make choices. The choices we make influences how successful we are.

If you don't go to college, you won't be a doctor.

If you go to college to be a doctor, you will have the opportunity to be a doctor.

You got on the topic of 'genes' for some reason, I didn't.

And you didn't attack me, either. =] Don't worry. I just never said genes influenced how successful you were, did I? =/

 

Sorry, xD
I read the second part of your post and completely missed the first where you said I was right, my bad.

 

I think any organism of any kind is equal. No organism is superior to another, in other words.

I treat every person I meet the same as the guy or girl before, and others after.

Everything is equal because it is essentially all one. We're all organisms and therefore share everything in that fashion. *shrugs*

Simply because people have intelligence and create this "divide" between people doesn't mean it exists. And it really discourages me when people do that (regardless of the method or type of division).

 

I feel that people have different potentials in abilities throughout life and bias for what is successful and not does not go off things such as gender, ethnicity, wealth or sexual preference. These things are just not good enough reasons for someone to say that a person is not equal to demanding fair treatment in law etc. Also, I believe handicapped people or mentally disabled people should also be treated as people and that children should be treated on par with adults and not treated as lesser people or used as an excuse to toss in 100 stupid laws. I think all people should be regarded for who they are in that way. I believe people do deserve the chance to find their niches in life and even with disabilities, they can and so should not just be cast out.

However, I do not think we are all born equal aside from rights we are entitled to in a society. Some people are more intellectual, some people are faster, some people are stronger, some people are thinner, fatter, have injuries, debilitating diseases or conditions, some people have food allergies, mental instability, some are homicidal or suicidal, etc. So to say all people are born equal would technically in regards to genetics be flawed. At any one time someone may be better at something than someone else. I can't isolate it to say one gender is always stronger than the other or faster, or that one 'race' is superior in intellect etc to another, but on an individual basis we all know people of any gender or race that can be low in intellect, mentally disabled, incapable of physically accomplishing things, have no talent in music, act reckless, etc. Is a person who can run 2 miles in 10 minutes going to be equal in that skill with someone who runs it in 18 minutes? Of course not. However, is that person who ran that race in 10 minutes that can't draw a stick figure recognizably going to be on par with that person who ran the 18 minute run when the person can draw exquisitely? Nope, there too. So in the end we all have our talents and things we can say we are good or suck at.

Also, some people seem more skilled at a variety of things than others may. So in the end we are not equal in competition with one another, but we as humans do set ourselves above the animal kingdom in regards to our sentience. We don't -have- to be as competitive as animals in the wild do and we also have an array of occupations and things we can go do so people can excel or not. People can find jobs they will profess in and skills they can use which makes up for their negatives. As humans have set up social structures, kinder places try to help people find their niches in life making it possible to contribute to the society. Even some people like my twin with cerebral palsy do work whereas in some other places she'd be considered a total burden. I feel she deserves that chance because being successful in life means a lot to nearly anyone.

Because of our sentience and society with a ton of things people can do, we do dodge the issue of Natural Selection most often except when we war with each other and there's a possibility of genocide of something or we outlaw a certain behavior and cause it to plummet. We make things more 'equal' for people but people themselves are not created equal and we are all gifted and blighted at one time.

 

Aw...it seems I'm always after the essay of Repliku. Anyways on topic:

I think everyone is created equally. It just depends on what you do after the creation. With your decisions, then thats when the equalness (is that even a word?) stops. Its really sad about our world nowadays that everyone is treated differently. Even back in the past, people were treated differently. And well, I'm not really for sure what else to say to describe my feelings on equality so thats basically it.

 

No i dont, because if we were all equal people would not be poor or not be starved to death

 

People are born mentaly retarted and don't make that decision, and the majority of people look down on them, make fun of them, and a normal person is considered to be superior to them. They don't make the choice, natural selection does. Where is the equality there?

 

In my eyes, I think everyone is equal. Everyone should have the same rights, privileges, offers...
In the worlds eyes, no. Everyone is different. Some are better, worst. There's a difference between 'important' people, and 'failures'. No one helps out. Just selfishness and greed overrules all. Suckish, neh?

 

So just because they're born with a mental difficiency they should be considered unequal? Most of the times they have that equalness taken away because of the parent before birth.

The equality isn't there because a "normal" person feels the need to make themselves feel better so they make fun of people whom they believe are "inferior" to them.

 

I never said they should be considered unequal, what I am asking is do you really think someone who is mentally ill is equal to the average human being in terms of opportuniy and potential?

And yes I know thier chances at living a normal life is usualy taken away before birth, but you stated that equality in a social sense is taken away by the decisions of that person, yet no one chooses to be disabled or crippled.