Birth by Sleep DS is to short to be Xehanort?????

If you look at the pics you can see that the DS is to short to be Xehanort....

and if the DS is Xehanort from KH2 he must be over 20 years old...
(because Xemnas is 30 years old and bbs is 10 years before kh1)


but i dont think that he still gorws up if he is over 20 years old

He looks like 16 or 17

AND Xehanort isnt connected to Ven


maybe he is Zexion and he made a copy of MXs keyblade

 

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Hang on there a problem with this idea.
BBS is set 10 years before KH1, but Xehanhort wasn't around all of those years.
Look at this timeline

BBS ends and Xehanhort meets Ansem the Wise. 1 year later Xehanhort gives his body to darkness and Xemnas and Ansem the Seeker of darkness are born. They live for 9 years and then the events of KH1. Xehanhort must have been 29 years old when he met Ansem the Wise if his nobody is 30 years old (Since Xehanhort became a heartless a year after meeting Ansem The Wise)

Yes, He seems like the 2nd least likely person to be Xehanhort (Aqua is first)
But it's likely the two knew each other.

The dark solider? And what are you refering to about this copy of MX's keyblade?

 

I'm going to avoid DS theory making until we learn more about him. that water's just too murky to see straight.

as for your theory of DS possibly being Ienzo I highly doubt that.
Zexion hated getting his hands dirty. I can only assume that he shared that trait with his original (memories and all that). so to have a blade weilding apprentice minion becoming the Cloaked Schemer is just to big of a push.

 

Exactly.
That's why I have trouble believing Master Xehanort or DS end up as Xehanort the apprentice. Because Xehanort was amazed at the Keyblade. "Ansem" and Xemnas had no connection to the Keyblade (I can't remember if "Ansem" or Maleficent amde the dark Keyblade but it was fake anyways). Except that Xehanort lost his memories, but I believe that Xemnas would have regained those memories when he became a Nobody.
But Terra has a Keyblade, as well, (albeit a Keychainless one). I've always thought Keychains made a Keyblade real, but we don't know that for sure.
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The only things I would like to change is that I don't think Terra joined Master Xehanort, but gave in to the darkness because of him. He didn't kill Aqua, but he didn't save her, either due to not caring (if he had indeed gave in to the darkness) or he wasn't able to. At first I wasn't sure if the LS would be an unbirth, I don't really like it, but think of it like this: KH1's secret boss was Xehanort's Nobody (the enemy from the next game) so wouldn't it make sense that KH2's secret boss could be Xehanort's Unbirth? (If Terra is Xehanort and that would also depend on what the hell an Unbirth is). Of course there are other flaws, but I'm still thinking it's something along those lines.

I started straying away from the Terra=Xehanort theory recently and started thinking DS=Xehanort.
But Now I think that both of them have something to do with Xehanort, I'm just not sure what.
If the whole "MX possesses Terra" thing is plausible, I believe "DS merges with Terra" or something along those lines. Remember that Xehanort's Heartless was able to keep a human shape, had another heartless attached to him and was even so extremely powerful? Because he was from two people.
Xemnas is the same way. No other Nobody was able to go to another dimension and have all those forms (except Marluxia, but I can't remember if he did it as powerful as Xemnas) But I'm still not entirely sure.
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it could of been xehanort but he grew

he did not join m.xehanort but fell into darkness m.xehanort says that hes fallen too deep into darkness and should no longer wield the keyblade and use his dark powers to fix m.xehanort's mistakes.
terra says he will use his dark powers for his own use.
also they are now called unversed not unbriths

 

BBS takes place ten years before KH.
Heartless took over Hollow Bastion nine years before KH.
So Xehanort had less than a year to be Ansem's apprentice.
DS could not have grown that much in less than a year.​

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1. Read the post, I said I DON"T THINK he joined MX. That was just a really old theory a lot of people believed in back then.
2. We have no way of knowing for sure if he does join him or not. THe game's not out yet and the characters' fates haven't been revealed.
3. We don't know if MX was talking about Terra, DS, or Ven when he said someone who uses darkness is not meant to wield the Keyblade. Speculation says Terra because he gives in to the darkness. It showed a scene of DS while MX said it. But it showed Ven right before MX started saying it.
3. Unversed was just a bad translation. V and B sound the same in Japanese, just like in SPanish. TH's and S also sound the exact same. (THat's why there was a mix up in FF VII due to Aerith's name being translated as Aeris). So the translation deviced called them Unversed instead of Unbirths.​

 

they said it was unversed recently i thought it was originally unbirth but changed to unversed

 

lol i mean Ienzo but I also believe that he isnt the DS



but who is connceted to VEN/SORA/ROXAS




ohhhh



what about LEA

 

Hehe, I don't think that's a reason for DS not being Xehanort :P I mean, all old people are shorter than they were when they were 40.

 

Im not making any Good theory's but i just saw that nomura said that all the people in kh2Fm+ secret ending do have a connection to a character currently known and there isnt enough information yet to be able to connect any one of them to anything

I still think Xion's time travelling could work :D

 

I agree with you theory its just i believe that terra isn't being controlled by MX. MX tried to but failed controlling him. I believe that they all lost their memories. And maybe thats why terra didn't save aqua because he didn't no who she was. I think Mx dind't know who he was after. Im still putting things together onto who MX is. But as for terra your right that he only remembered the name xehanort and everything you said up to Xemnas. I just belive he wasn't controlled by MX. He had a free mind that was empty pretty much that was foundn by ansem the wise which lead to everything that happens

 

And Master xehanort is also to short to be xehanort from KH2




and i think that the DS is a new person (or someone who looks like roxas or sora)

 

i think ds is a replica of terra gone wrong because on the preview on the website if you look at his helmet you can see brown hair.and he has the same pattern on his chest as repliku's looks like a heartless sign but different.

 

I believe the Dark Soldier is actually a new character, that will be introduced in BBS. There will be a good reason why he is wearing the outfit which looks like the Riku outfit when Xehanort took him over (You know the battle where Sora had to fight Riku, and then turned into a Heartless.)
But I don't think it's a character we know yet. It just isn't possible that it's Riku, him being a young child.

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Wait. (I think of this while I'm writing this) Maybe he is Xehanort, apprentice of Ansem the Wise. I mean, the DS is the apprentice of MX, then fights VAT, loses, MX loses as well (we assume), DS loses his memories, only remembering the name Xehanort (of his master). He names himself after his old master, then goes to Ansem the Wise. He then turns evil (well, he turns evil again) Maybe that's why the suit of his Heartless looks like the MX outfit, because he remembers that outfit. Then when he takes over Riku, he gives him a suit that looks alot like his old outfit, and maybe it is the same, only better made or a bit different.
So this could mean DS = Xehanort.

Okay so I have to admit I didn't read the other replies so this might already be said and/or been proven not true. Please tell me if this has already been said. But this is what I think.

 

haha thats the same thing as the terra = xehanort theory but just DS instead of Terra lol

 

Its all good still makes sense. Cept what I'm saying is that terra = apprentice xehanort = DS. I just have an extra person. lol. It is possible that it may not be this complicated and you may be right. We just have to wait sigh**