Chain of Memories Does anyone else not understand Namine?

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  1. PaopuDragon Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I hope they go into more depth with her in other games. I want to know why she has her powers, and who it was that named her "Namine". Maybe she has the powers simply because Kairi is a princess, with a 'pure heart'. So then Namine is a pure Nobody. I dunno, but I've become fascinated with her story ever since I got to play Re:CoM.
     
  2. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    According to one theory... Namine has powers over Sora's memories not only because she was made from Kairi's heart being lost, but she also is made of part of Sora's soul, since Kairi's heart resided inside Sora for a while.

    According to this theory, Namine gets her powers from this connection with Sora. Thats why she has power over those connected to Sora.

    I dont understand anything else about Namine... not even her name.
     
  3. Destiny's Force Mess with the best, lose like the rest...

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    Here's your answer...

    Namine comes from the Japanese word "nami" which means wave to show the connection to Kairi whose name comes from "kai" which is the Japanese word for water...

    ...or so I've heard. ;)
     
  4. Sacae Destiny Islands Resident

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    Kudos to above poster, and here I was about to check the meaning of the names. ^_~ Beat me to it.

    Edit: To add more to this thread than that. *smakcs foehead* Stupid me. I'd say I agree, if it wasn't for the fact I never really needed to know. I kind of accept that she can do what she does. Sora is some of the few people to travel to so many worlds, to meet so many people. It'd be kind of fun yet hard to have her job. Wonder why it took a year? His hearts is connected to so many people. She is Kairi's nobody, and now is inside her again. Just as Roxas is inside Sora. So, here is the question that I wonder the most: Does Kairi have that same kind of power? Think about what Diz said so long ago at the beginning of khII "He has half of Sora's power, he'd have to give it back." About Roxas. So, did it happen to Kairi as well? In a sense she has part of Sora in her. Since Nam is part of Sora and Kairi isn some way. Which, is why I also think Kairi got a keyblade. Totally could be wrong.
     
  5. SuperStardustHD Banned

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    So Namine is also made from a part of Sora's soul?

    That's pretty awesome =D
     
  6. Roxas2605 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Namine can manipulate soras memories because she is technically a part of sora because kairi hid within sora and seeing that kairi has no darkness in her heart creating no heartless but an nobody was created in the form of namine

    because kairis heart came from sora body when he sacrificed himself that made namine partly soras nobody as well as kairis.
     
  7. Shiki my waifu is better than yours, thanks

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    Kairi and Namine are both of light. Sora is both light and dark, hence Roxas is twilight. But since Namine is all light then that means her powers are more good than bad. But think, Roxas seemed a lot more bad in the Orginization. So that means Namine is Kairi's opposite as is Roxas is Sora's opposite.

    So really, Namine is the opposite of Kairi's personality. Roxas is too and he seemed more angry. Namine was more shy and then Kairi was more brave. Sora was more nice and heroic. That just poinnts out that many nobodies are the opposite of who they were.

    Catch my drift?
     
  8. PaopuDragon Merlin's Housekeeper

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    No, actually, I was meaning, since when a Nobody is made, it has no name. Someon has to give it it's name. Was Marly the one who named her? I'm very interested in her story is all. Thanks, dorks (no offense intended, I'm one too and damn proud) :D
     
  9. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Wait... are you saying Kairi and Namine had personalities? I don't see it.
     
  10. Destiny's Force Mess with the best, lose like the rest...

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    Namine was timid at first back in CoM, but finally came out of her shell when Sora stood up for her and forgave her for her meddling. And she disobeyed DiZ's orders not to make any contact with Roxas.

    Kairi...well, she jumped into the corridor of darkness without a second thought. She completely owned Axel (even though we don't see it.). She was ready to take on Saix even when she had no chance in a full moon to even dent him. Oh, and she jumped off a balcony knowing full well it would've broke a normal person's bones. Yeah, she's got a reckless personality. Pretty much like Sora when you think about it. :)
     
  11. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Ok... but if Namine was really the oposite of Kairi... she would have been based off of the KH1 Kairi, who literally had no personality other than a Girly Girl who was affraid of everything and helpless. Basically, KH1 Kairi, was exactly the same as Namine, nothing more than a damsel in distress.

    Also, Roxas isnt as happy as Sora, but he is within the normal range between happyness and anger. If he was truly the opposite of Sora, he would have hated everything... but he is not. He is a little angry, not completly. Meaning, he is not the opposite of Sora.
     
  12. Repliku Chaser

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    Kairi didn't 'own' Axel at all. She ran away from him. That is all that was declared was that she ran away and Saix took her. She couldn't have kicked a Nobody's ass if she wanted to. Just had to say that because that line made me laugh. =:)

    Onto other things pertaining to Namine and addressing questions asked. Some of these were pretty well answered but I thought I'd elaborate a bit.

    Namine was allegedly formed at the same time Roxas was, when the Dark Keyblade was used to remove Kairi's Heart from Sora's body and he was turned into a Shadow. Because Kairi's Heart had no Darkness, the Dark Keyblade had to be used. Sora did have Darkness though, as anyone apparently does but Princesses of Heart. This is covered in the real Ansem Reports in KH2 if you want a reference point.

    Because of this though, Namine did have connection to Kairi and also because she was formed as she was, in ways she was considered even less than a Nobody. After all, her body was never really lost and never changed into a Heartless. This made her somewhat mysterious to the Nobodies as well and so she was dubbed a 'witch' and this also probably kept her out of ever making it into the ranks of the Organization itself.

    Namine had a connection to Sora because of Kairi's connection to him and her Heart residing in him just prior to Namine's 'conception'. Due to this link to Sora, she sensed him and then lured him to the Castle Oblivion because she was lonely and wished to be free. He was 'familiar' to her and so she tugged on that link. Marluxia discovered what she was doing and saw this as a way to deal with his own situation of wanting to make a rise up against Xemnas and the older members. So he forced her to continue bringing Sora, but now of course, it wasn't just to let Namine have a little friend.

    As for why she acted somewhat different to Kairi...in some ways she did, but in others she was very much like Kairi. Heck, they even ran the same..doing that prancing thing. She did seem more introverted than Kairi, but this could also be because look who she had to live with at the Castle Oblivion. She also did some not so nice things and she never did apologize to Repliku even though she messed him up badly. Her mind was focused on Sora...much as Kairi's seemed to be too when she said 'Let's take the raft and just the two of us go' or something like that. I don't think Kairi would have agreed to help Marluxia but Namine was different and probably did not remember everything clearly, just as Roxas could not, so she had no moral background or history to fall back on. In a way, I'd say the Nobodies were like 'twins' to their former 'somebodies', but raised apart. Roxas and Sora shared some similar things but differed because of their environment and it's the same with Kairi and Namine.

    I'm pretty sure that Namine had her link to Sora by her creation and how Kairi's Heart resided in his own for some time and that link is what enabled her to affect many people throughout as she messed with Sora's memories, erasing him from all those he met in KH1. Not only, apparently was she able to mess with his memories, but all whom he was shown at the Castle Oblivion in reality suffered the loss. Leon does make a point in KH2 to say he didn't even remember Sora until a while before he showed up. That's some power.
     
  13. Destiny's Force Mess with the best, lose like the rest...

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    That was intended to be a joke anyway. If it made you laugh, then it succeeded. :D Of course Kairi would never be able to take on an Organization member by herself. Not unless she went for numerous low blows. They may not have hearts, but they still retained their...packages, so to speak. :p

    Okay, now you're just showing off. :p

    But about that last point, I believe that only those who physically have met Sora face to face would have their memories affected. Riku wasn't completely affected because the darkness in his heart acted as a memory buffer. However, when he shed his identity as Riku, his memories began to have gaping holes in them (based on DiZ saying that Riku's memories had "gaps" in them.) Mickey and DiZ weren't affected at all because Sora had never met either of them face to face. Sora may have glimpsed the King when closing the door, but Mickey was still in shadows, so Sora hadn't "officially" met him. DiZ was immune because Sora had never even heard of him, so no memory in his heart to connect them.
     
  14. Repliku Chaser

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    Hey! Who's showing off now! (joking of course). Yeah, I agree with you on the last point. I think that Riku, because he was there at the Castle Oblivion and saw Sora in the capsule and was with Namine for things did not lose his memories entirely but because Namine had an affect on Sora as she did, Riku also had gaps.

    Also, I think it's the gaps in Riku's memory that made it so Kairi and others didn't remember him so well on Destiny Islands either and he was just some boy they played with some time ago. Since Sora lost his whole memory by what Namine did, everyone that had met him before had no recollection of him. Most people in KH didn't really know Riku any way so he wouldn't even be recalled at all by most. I agree that King Mickey remembered things since he never was really introduced to Sora and DiZ and King Mickey were at the Castle Oblivion when they did encounter him so both were safe from it.
     
  15. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Holy **** Didn't you boring to sit down and write this whole thing???????????????
     
  16. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Wow... according to Repliku, Marluxia was nothing more than an opportunist, and Namine caused CoM.

    Good stuff.
     
  17. ♦Demon♥Angel♦ Gummi Ship Junkie

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    ok i reading so just explain what are you guys taking about, to save me from reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    Not so true. Weren't Xemnas and Xehanort alike?
     
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    That is what is written regarding it. Namine is the one who initially felt Sora and tried to lure him there to help her get free and have company. Marluxia picked up on it and then set up his own scheme and forced her to bring him and ordered the rest. Did you actually think it worked out different?
     
  20. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    No... thats kinda the impression I got. But I thought Marluxia was the one who took the initiative. Remember the crossroads?
     
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