Do YOU use Sigs/Avas with JP!KH Fanart?

If you do, read here:

http://meltokio.net/overture/savejkhfans/

It was rare, but I did notice a couple of people with signatures/avies using what is presumably stolen fanart. Obviously I can't be certain if it's their own art or if they're not from JP!KH sites, but I just thought I should spread the word since I got it from a friend at devART who seemed kinda upset about it.

(I'm still not sure if this 'No KH fanart!' rule applies to EVERYONE in general...D: *shifty eyes*)

 

No, I don't fair maiden.

 

Jeez... that person needs to chill... Well, I don't, so *shrug*

 

Well, if people can get ARRESTED, then I don't think there's anything to really uh, well, *chill* about. Heh.

(And nooooo!! TBK why did you change your username?! D: )

 

I... don't really get it.

They keep comparing it to shoplifting or comparing it to monetary gain.

A notable comparison:

No, that's not what they're doing. Stealing money is in absolutely no way on par with taking someone's artwork and still *crediting* them for it. I only condone their anger if those people are taking credit for the work, but for them to make something as harmless as an icon or a sig/avatar for a forum or MSN display pics and still crediting the artist isn't wrong in any way, in my opinion.

The internet is spacious and open to all sorts of exposure. The internet world is like this, get used to it. If you're too afraid of having people make siggies out of your work even though they STILL credit you, then do us all a favour and take them off your website.

Honestly, this is like when people b*tch about "Why did you read my xanga! You have no business reading my xanga!" Well, guess what, that's what writing your thoughts on a page that the entire world can see can do to you.

It's one thing if people claim your work, but it's another thing to completely overract when the other person admits it's not theirs and just likes the picture and wants to make something else out of it. Honestly, you can't change the internet; don't put crap you don't want being spread, because that's exactly what the internet is good at doing.

 

Thank you, ロクサス. You are correct, but you managed to say it far more clearly and eloquently than I had the patience to.

 

Just to set myself straight, I wasn't meant to offend you or your friend, StupidAquarius. I was more or less directing my frustration at whoever wrote that page, because I found it was sourly excessive, and somehow aggravating considering how blatantly self-centeredly written it was.

 

I'm really sorry but that page just made me do a combination of two things that shouldn't be done in concert.

1. Laugh extremely loud.
2. Introduced my face to my palm


I mean, if these Japanese artists are putting their artwork on a website they're pretty much ASKING for the work to be seen/used. And if they're so worried about using a picture as an avatar or a signature on a forum, then the artwork should not even be posted in the first place.

I know it was written in a rage, which is a mistake in the first place. Emotions are best left OUT of public viewing on the internet. But they could have made it sound a little more neutral.

 

XD Naaah, it's okay. But I guess it's 'Respecting the Artist's wishes' which is the point that needs to be understood, because if they say they don't want their work taken, then they don't want their work taken (my guess is that they simply have a site just for showcase, not resources). I for one am all down with the 'You can take, but just credit' thing. I don't care if people take my work as long as they credit; I've seen that a couple of times. But you'd be surprised with the type strict stuck up b*tches that STALK and HARRASS you in any fcking way possible you if you use an artwork without their/the artist's permission...even if you credit....

 

It's called paranoia, StupidAquarius.

>.>

I don't find it wrong to use JP!KH Fanart because I always end up giving credit to the person who actually made it.

 

...*What's* called paranioa?

 

I use fanarts... but only my own.
I think its wrong for people to use images without permission no matter if they are fanart or not or wheter you credit the person.
I like to put my pictures out on DeviantArt because I want people to see my pictures, NOT so that everyone can use it for their own means.
I have in fact experienced having pictures of my two bunnies taken without permission and it makes me mad!

 

xD Paranoia. In extreme cases you think the CIA/FBI/etc are out to get you.

But I suspect this is more a mild example of paranoia. Same principle, 'Oh they're out to steal my art and say it's theirs.'

In my experiance, say I'm using an icon for my LJ that someone else has made. I will credit the one who made the icon. And that's usually all that's asked for such things.

But, this seems rather extreme. 'Don't go to these sites directly from Disney or SE owned sites.' If they're that paranoid someone is going to steal their art, then they should better protect the art or just not post it on a website.

xD Besides, if they knew what they were doing to their fanart when displaying it on the internet. They'd scream in horror.;)

 

Okay you guys are really confusing me here, what the hell does paranoia have to do with anything?!?

Precisely, which, now that I think about it, is kinda...sad. These artists expose their work for show and in exchange, they ask of us not to use them. They're entrusting their work to us. But nooOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo, we just have to break that trust and go against their will for our own selfish reasons! Precisely the reason why a good majority of them SHUT DOWN their site (from what I've heard, anyway) and no one'll ever see their work again! O:

I'm really just trying to put myself in their shoes, they as in the artists that don't want their work stolen. Like I mentioned before I don't care for people taking fanarts unless they credit. I don't even know WHY these artists flip ape mode because of this and start a whole drama, I honestly don't get their problem. But if it's their wishes, and if that's what they want, then the least I could do in appreciation of their work is respect their wishes. It's not about what we think is okay, it's about what they want.

 

I meant more to the fact that any image on the internet should be 72 dpi. Most of the images printed in magazines are 300 dpi. But I'll not bore you with what I learn every day at college.

But just imagine taking an image and cutting it into less than half of it's original size to place on a webpage. That's really what is happening to the quality of any image on the internet at 72 dpi.

I can see the artists' concerns. I had one of my photo manipulations posted on another website. I since put my name on most of anything I do in photoshop as well as the date I finished.

I don't know. Anything you put on the internet might as well be free game to the people using viewing it as software becomes more sophisticated.

 

O__O...

UH LOL.

What did the first half of your message have to do with?! XD Eh, I must've skipped a scene or something....*re-reads to try and get the picture*

(Btw, reducing an image in half does not destroy the quality - it's only when you 'enlargen' an image does it cause a quality problem)

 

Wow.

This person clearly doesn't understand art and it's role on internet communities.

Ripping is bad, oh well. It's not bad if you credit the person, it is bad if you credit yourself when you didn't make it.

This person doesn't belong on the internet if they're taking it so seriously. >.>

And plus this person is making the situation even worse getting frustrated about it like that. :/

Both destroy quality. If you downsize it you're blurring it. Only if you sharpen and reduce the noise will it be slightly closer to the same quality it once had.

:/

 

ok basicaly if they tell u claerly that they dont want their work stolen then dont but if they dont say anything then they shouldnt get mad i mean like they should know this IS the internet everyone steals everything

 

*Sigh* Okay,it's okay to use fanart as your avatars,siggys,ect. It's DEFINATLY okay to use them and give credit to the person who made it. It's NOT okay to use it and claim it as yours. Also,it's not okay to use it if the maker says they don't want you to. All in all,if you take it and claim,it's bad. Give credit,and it's okay. Case closed..

 

Wow, this person is really angry.
Almost sounds like the persons work have been stolen before.
But ,well I think it is pretty okay making sigd and stuff out of as long as you give credit.
It really sucks when pepole just steal your work and :"woho I MADE this!".
But it is the internet so what can you expect xD
There are unfair , graphic stealing pepole out there and that you have to get used to when you display your work on the internet.
But it is pretty okay if pepole give credit.