Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

that could be. when i look closely, it looks like his appearance is changing while the camera zooms in on him. something to do with the fact that he's looking at kingdom hearts? it could just be a shadow, though.

 

What if the guy who took off his helmet and looked at kingdom hearts is ...........XEHANORT!!! I mean, blues eyes turning yellow? Xehanort has yellow eyes. That guys hair looked exactly like Xehanort's, just shorter. That man has the same body structure as Xemnas.

......I think that guy is Xehanort. Cool.

 

What I am wondering is why baldy has a cop-out outfit VERY similar to heartless Ansem in KH1.

;/ Is that fashion popular among badguys?


Other then that, the frozen blondie does resemble Roxas, but I doubt it. ;/

 

What if the blondy is Sora's ancestor or something? The blue haired chick could be kairi's or Riku's ancestor.

That Mickey mouse.......Mickey mouse from Kh1 or 2? Or.....grandpa mickey?

 

Your repeating what we said earlier, but yes, the four may be the same.

 

Talk about a crazy theory... but here's mine:

Nomura stated in an interview that this scene happened both in the past and the future. I think that the armored people are in fact past Keyblade wielders (did anyone notice that the blue-haired girl has hair just like Kairi's from KH1, but blue, the opposite color of red?). The visible three are the girl who looks like Kairi, the one who looks a LOT like Roxas, and the one with a shorter version of Xehanort's hair. After the scary old guy beat them up and opened the path to Kingdom Hearts, they... how do I say this?... the Keyblade wielders DIED, anyway, releasing their hearts. These hearts were later reborn as Kairi, Sora, and Xehanort. This would also explain how they also got involved in the scheme of things. And as for the words from the last Secret Movie, perhaps "Xehanort's memories" means that Xehanort chose to continue his research because of his recurring memories.

I think I lost all of you.

 

I very much doubt that, with Mickey there. I don't think Square Enix can create a new Disney character.

EDIT:

That explains why they kept the little 'knight' alive untill Kingdom Hearts showed up. Nice thinking there. I don't doubt it but its not likely.

 

Cool. I can't wait until Kh3 or kh something comes out.

 

For those of you who've read my other post, I will explain why I called those 3 armored people "Meagers":

In Youtube.com, there is a video of the intro to KHII backwards. If you listen carefully in the part where Roxas talks, it sounds like he says, "Yum, dessert."

But then it gets serious, "As the Seeker now went around, 'Meager rights', I guess they're meant for all. They're meant for all, f*ck those meager rights."

I bet that this is a secret the Nomura put in (except the part with "Yum, dessert and Roxas swearing ). I've got a few things to say about the "Meager rights" part. Have you noticed that the armored guys have an "M" on their chest? Maybe that stands for "Meager". Meager means "not enough", which makes sense in KH. The "rights" are probably talking about the armored guys' ability to wield Keyblades freely (as they are seen walking in a dessert full of Keyblades that look like they are free to take). Nomura says in an interview that the secret movie is set sometime in the past. Roxas is probably saying that anyone should have the right to freely wield Keyblades like the Meagers, because, in the Organization, Roxas might be thinking the same as Sora, "Xemnas is bad because he is messing up the worlds only because he needs hearts, and Sora is one of the only Keyblade wielders and is caring only for him and not anyone else who does not wield a Keyblade." So Roxas is saying that if anyone else had Keyblades, then the worlds wouldn't be in so much danger of, not only the Organization, but the Heartless as well. But I think that that after the "Keyblade War" finished, the Keyblades were only entrusted to people with strong hearts and Meagers, and Roxas wants that to change for some reason even I don't know.

The Seeker is probably the first Meager, and "went around" is him going around to fight his dad (I'll explain later).

Remember I said that Roxas explained the Meager rights? Well, first of all, the kid-like Meager looks like Roxas. Maybe he's Sora's dad or something. Perhaps Roxas doesn't have Sora's memories but he has Sora's dad's memories instead; of-course, after the whole "Sora was a heartless for a short time only thing", Roxas DID lose his memories which, as I said, belonged to Sora's dad. Now remember in KHII, just before Roxas left TWTNW, he asked Axel, "Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know." Xemnas seems to know a lot about the Meagers and could've told Roxas. When Roxas hears the story he suddenly remembers about the Meager rights and his "other" and wondered how powerful his "other"'s heart must've been to be able to wield a keyblade that was held by the Seeker (as seen in the secret movie), and also wondered why he didn't get his dad's keyblade. That's probably two of the reasons of why he wanted to meet Sora; and that could also be the reason why he fought Sora when he got to TWTNW.

One last thing: 2 of the Meagers are Riku's grandma (because she has his hair) and (as I said before,) Sora's dad. It seems in that generation, Sora's dad and Riku's grandma were friends just like Sora and Riku today. The Seeker was Xehanort's dad and the bald guy was his grandpa. His grandpa was a man of supreme darkness but his dad was a denizen of light, and that explains why the Seeker was determined to fight his dad. And (this is a wild guess) Xehanort's dad married Riku's grandma and had Riku's uncle, Xehanort, and some other kid who gave birth to Riku. In KH1, Mickey starts his expedition and used a time door similar to Merlin's to go back in time and stays there probably throughout the whole of KH1. The reason why Mickey was so interested in Riku and decided to go to him instead Sora was because he somehow met Riku's grandma who gave him her Keyblade. Later, Mickey gave his old Keyblade (the Star Seeker) to Yen Sid who gave it to Sora later. Going back, Mickey met with Riku who was being posessed by Xehanort's heartless because Mickey knew about Riku's relationship with Xehanort but of-course didn't tell him because it might freak him out. So the reason Riku is filled with darkness but equally powerful with light at the same time is because his grandpa was a denizen of light and his great-grandpa was a denizen of dark, and those powerful genes passed on to him and he can wield the Keyblade because Riku had a heart as strong as them; that's why Mickey wanted to help Riku. Riku's grandma might have given the Way To Dawn Keyblade to Riku because she knew what his situation might've been. And of-course, Mickey gave that Keyblade to Riku after CoM when he could appear properly. Oh yeah, I forgot, please take just a few more minutes to read on: The reason Mickey is transparent was because he meddled in the past, so something happened to his body when he retured to the present time. He told Merlin this and that's how Merlin knows you should not be tempted when going back in time and he told Sora that when he was going back in time in Timeless River.

PHEW!!! DONE!!! Sorry for the length of this post, but anyway, this is just my theory, but I think it makes a LOT of sense. From now on, I'll call the armored guys "Meagers". What do you guys think of this?

 

tht is a great theory . I will have 2 check up on tht. Do u have the link b any chance?

 

Awesome speculation, Zefton.

I have another theory.

I was watching the movie again and I realized that the bald guy and the red dark form guy were both using some freezing ability. Now, Nomura states that movie happens both in the past and future. Now, I haven't really given it a lot of thought, but what if the Chasers were immune to time. As in, they could somehow escape time? Maybe the desert with the keyblades was a place that was outside of time? I mean, the keyblades existed for who knows how long in the kh universe.

Maybe That's why they were trying to freeze the 3 knights?

 

that's a very good speculation on things. it makes sense why they'd be called "meagers" and, from the way you put it, roxas could have some high importance in the next project. i'll keep this theory in mind. ;D

 

As a matter of fact , I think that the RK is the lover of the blue haired girl. When u see the expression on his and her face it looks like they love each other. What does everone else think?

 

Here's the link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_ysu7NWHs

 

The parts about the Meagers were really interesting- now that I see them, I can almost believe they are true. But I admit it's kinda hard to believe the part about the Meagers being the kids' relatives. I'm sure that this would've happened too far back, and besides, why are they all shown being close to death in the end? Keep in mind that Square Enix has to keep this easy for others to follow...

 

Isn't that knight, the big one...Xehanort? HIs hair style is the same, and well, his eyes turn yellow, isn't that ....a similarity?

I won't judge if the other two are lovers, but personally I don't think so.

 

Just a thought,because it looks like he was reaching for her and Just the expression on their face's. just kinda seems they are lovers or once were lovers.

 

I don't think that means they're necessarily lovers, they could be good friends, or brother/sister. Just keep that in mind.

EDIT: Oops, left out mother/son.

 

so no one else thinks that tall guy is Xehanort? =O?

 

true. I will keep tht in mind. thanks. just the thought will keep me pondering for the night.