Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

Hey guys... I just found this site today... and i'm having trouble finding the KH2 final mix version of the secret ending on the site...sooo...could someone help me out? thanks!

 

... Why are we talking about the voice in KH1?

Check the help forum > KH-V's.Net Forum > under Off Topic > Forum Assistance. Search it. *shrug*

 

I don't know why, but it is somewhat interesting.

 

This thread is about the FM+ secret ending.... *head tilt*

But whatever. Someone post something mind churning.

 

Read This Is You Want Information Regarding Xehanort's Memories

Okay, i'm going to change the topic a bit. This will tie into the secret trailer though:

Go to the KHII:FM section and check out the cutscenes. Go to the cutscene named "An Old Friend." Before Xemnas (the man in the black cloak) is able to infiltrate Ansem's Study, he must first enter in a pass code. If you look closely, you see him enter in the letters A-N-O-R-T-H-E-A. If you add an X and take out an A, it spells Xehanort! I wonder if this name (most likely a person connected to Xehanort) is the key to the past. If you look at the meaning of Xehanort, it means one without a heart. Maybe Xehanort was a nobody or a heartless. I realize that Ansem the Wise saved Xehanort from death's door and gifted him this name. This makes me believe that Xehanort's real name was Anorthea. I figured that the pass code had to be something extremely important, so no one could figure it out. In KHII, Xemnas searches for his real name. Maybe Anorthea was his real name and that once he figured it out, he knew that it was the password to a room that contains the past. If you look at the entire trailer, you see Xemnas sit down in a thrown. On the floor you see chains illuminate. I believe that these chains represent Xehanort's "chain of memories." Also, if you look on the floor, you see a suit of armor with a keyblade. If you looked at the secret trailer, you would notice that the keyblade and the armor belongs to Aqua. When Xemnas sits in the thrown, he says "it's been a long time, old friend." This indicates that Xemnas has regained the memories of the past.

This is what I got out of that cutscene. By the way, I came up with these accusations all by myself. I don't copy other people's ideas. Feel free to comment on it.

 

Technically we are discussing if Terra could be the voice.

 

King Mickey might have been talking to Sora through the Keyblade...

But you're probably right in saying that it's Terra. Good explanation, convinced me almost completely...I like to stay open to things, though.

 

I still believe that it was the heart of all worlds -- kingdom hearts -- calling out to Sora. I believe that Kingdom Hearts was merely trying to convince Sora that he doesn't need a keyblade to protect his friends, he just needs his courage and his ultimate weapon -- his heart.

I'll paraphrase why Terra could not have been the voice:

Terra doesn't know Sora. He didn't intend on having Sora be the keyblade wielder. In the secret fight, Terra looks at Sora and basically says that he doesn't recognize him, at all. In the quote "why...why is it you...," Terra expresses his confusion of the whole situation. Terra is basically asking "why are you the one with THAT keyblade?" With all this said, Terra can't be the voice, because he meets Sora for the first time in KHII:FM. You can't speak out to a person you have no prior knowledge of.

Reply to my previous post if you wish, but I would like to move on to my cutscene theory. :D

 

I found out today that the evil bald man is Sora in the future!!

 

Haha, I love sarcasm too, Roxma...

 

Hehe...if anyone believes that, i'll laugh sooooo hard. Anyway, lets get back on topic.

 

Hmm...what are the chances of the keyblades being alive...? Perhaps they were a living being at one time....

 

Awwww. I wish somebody would've believed me.

 

I highly doubt that Terra be the voice that Sora heard for obvious reasons.

Yes but this thread is about the secret ending, not the 'we think Terra's the voice Sora heard in KH1' thread.

 

I already explained why Terra could not have been the voice, so lets talk about something else.

I supplied a cutscene as a new topic. Anyone want to talk about it?

Just to be sure, does everyone agree with my thoughts on Terra NOT being the voice?

 

I was going to give you credit if anyone asked me why I thought it was obvious that Terra couldn't be the voice, luulz. I agree with you.

Where's that cutscene?

 

Thank you, i just wanted to make sure that everyone understands my view point.

The cutscene is under the KHII:FM section on the home page. It should be named "An Old Friend."

 

About this cutscene :
-after checking the scene, I believe the password is "Another" ; his name indeed suggests that there's something funny about Xehanort, but how could he have split into a Nobody and a Heartless if he was already one of those ?
-the chains would rather suggest that this room is a prison, at least that's my opinion.
-the fact that Xemnas greets Aqua's armor by calling it "old friend" probably means he has retrieved some of his memories, but I don't think he's regained all of them. If he had, I don't think he would have said to Sora that he doesn't remember anything but anger and hate : if he calls Aqua a friend, it means he was once close to her, when he was not a "bad guy". If he had retrieved all his memories, he would have remembered that time as well.

And about the voice, I still believe it could be Terra : yes he doesn't know Sora, but it's possible he had him confused for Riku (it's very possible Riku didn't go to the Station of Serenity before he obtained Way to the Dawn), or that he didn't even bother to examine the chosen one. Try talking through a keyblade, maybe you won't be able to get to know your chose one...besides, maybe he isn't directly talking : maybe the voice is a message engraved in the keyblade, instructions for the successor.

If it isn't Terra, it's got to be someone linked to the keyblade, or the keyblade itself. I don't think it could be Mickey : if he knew who was the keyblade master, he wouldn't have bothered sending Goofy and Donald on a quest to find him. I don't think it could be DiZ either : his methods of manipulation are not likely to involve the Station of Serenity and its mystical importance (after all it's also where you fight Roxas, inside Sora's heart). And I don't think it could be Aqua or Ven either, since the Light Realm Kingdom Chain doesn't seem to be as linked to them as it is to Terra. It's true it could be Kingdom Hearts itself...

 

Yes, thats what I thought. A guideline pretty much.

But what about the keyblade? We say that it's likely that Chasers made them, but what if Chaser is just a name for a being (I'm saying being cause there's lions and stuff) who has been chosen to become the keyblade itself...yeah no evidence but it seems plausible to me

 

I doubt they were ever alive, but maybe there's a part of something alive in there...like a heart or a soul. That might make a little more sense.

And I don't think it was Terra's voice. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't seem like it would be him...perhaps it was the bald guy...