Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

Subtle difference : we never saw him go to the Station of Serenity. It's very possible he went there before Sora, when the keyblade chose him first, or that he went there during the missing year, when Sora was asleep, which is how he obtained Way to the Dawn.

I like to think of it as a Terra Replica, much like the Riku Replica : a clone that embraces the darkness, which would mean Terra once used the power of darkness (and uses it at the very end of the secret ending). That would strengthen the link between Terra and Riku : they've had the same fate, so to speak.

I believe that's a symbol for darkness (like the evil eye), since we first saw it on Riku's Soul Eater (in KH1, and at the time I doubt Nomura had already thought about Baldy and KH2FM's secret ending.), and it was reproduce on Way to the Dawn (which has symbols for both light and darkness).

Well...since there was a whole bunch of keyblades in the secret ending, yes I'd say there can be any number of keyblade masters : how could there be a war if not ?

The idea of history repeating itself means the keyblade war and what happened to Terra, Aqua and Ven : the words in Birht by Sleep tell of fates that have been set and that will start a new tale. To me it means that after the events of KH1 and KH2, Sora, Kairi and Riku have had their fates set : they are ready to live the same events that Terra, Aqua and Ven lived, and the whole question will probably be "Will they end up as their predecessors did ?". After all, it seems that the knights' fight against Baldy ended as a stalemate, which means its conclusion is only postponed. When Xehanort recovers his memories, when Baldy returns, there will be need for new keyblade masters to oppose him.

 

I,ll watch secret ending again and tell my findings.

EDIT FINDINGS: I'll discuss what i saw in KH2 secret ending. At begining when they show Terra he splits thne comes back together. While Baldy splits and creates something new. coinsidence i think not. Also whne Terras walking to the keyblades the backround behind him. In one of the Ansem reports it says" I must know what THIS keyblade is." He didnt say "a" he said this meaning he has 1. Also Baldy and clone are never in the same sceen except for beggining.
EDIT2:OMFG Kairis keyblade doesnt have a keychain!!!!!!!!! I hope you guys can prove me wrong. If you dont that means there is no waY Kairi is a keyblade wielder

 

Why would the absence of a keychain mean that the user isn't a genuine keyblade master ? Where did you get that idea ? I can see the logic, though I am far from agreeing with it, but what I don't understand is how people seem to take that as canon : it's not an official fact, it's only a theory which I don't find convincing or well backed up.

And yes, Kairi's keyblade has a keychain (a paopu fruit, just look at the cutscene in the World that Never Was, after Riku gives her the keyblade, when she says "this time I'll fight"), but the way she obtained that keyblade is very weird : she didn't go to the Station of Serenity (at least it was never shown), was never presented as a potential keyblade master (she's a damsel in distress, not a fighter) and it was handed to her by Riku. Besides it disappeared very quickly after that and she never used it again. But she did use a keyblade, which means she has the potential for becoming a keyblade master.

 

Anyone can wield a Keyblade, you have to be a Keyblade Master to be in the Station of Serenity, Kairi wasn't so she's not a Keyblade Master. I don't even know if Mickey went to the Station of Serenity or not.

 

Anyone can be a keyblade master ? What about when Captain Jack Sparrow tried to use the keyblade ? Why did Hades and Pete have to lure Sora into opening the Underworld Coliseum (they specifically said that one can't just weild a keyblade) ? A keyblade can only be used by someone who is worthy of it, and apparently the number one requirement is having a strong heart (Kairi being a Princess of the Heart, hers has no darkness in it, so she is more than worthy). The Station of Serenity is apparently a form of voyage into one's own heart, a trial that the keyblade puts you in to see if you're worthy.

 

You are correct about the voyage of someones heart. To get into the Station of Serenity you have to have a Dive To Heart. Also what about my findings in KH2! Nobody commentded

 

We don't know for sure if the station of santuary is nessacary to becoming a keyblade master or not.

About Kairi's keyblade... It was fairly random, but apparently, the novels coming out in Augest expand on it's oragin.

I really think that Terra's splitting was just an effect to go along with the music or whatever. Since nothing happened, and he didn't even seem to notice, I don't think it has much importance.

Btw, Kanji, did you get the PM that I sent you?

 

This will seem extremely random compared to some of the other things I've said, but I was thinking about Ven's full name and this is what came out of that:

Ven - Sora - Roxas (all have some relation to air, sky, wind)

Ven - Nomura specifically stated "it's only a nickname"

His full name?
Ventus
Ventosus
Ventolus
(All Latin words for "Wind")

But, I also noticed something extremely random while over-viewing the new KH2FM+ scans. We all know that Vexen's name as a Somebody is Even right? Well...

E(Ven).

Like I said, extremely random, and probably not even in relation to this subject.

 

Vexen is an organization member killed by Axel he cant be ven. However they both have blone hair. Only explination is Vexen made a copy since hes so good at science and cut his hair. Thus making ven. Intersting is it not

 

Whoa, that would be really weird. But if this next game is supposed to be in the past, dont you think that the Organization would still exist? Or at least Ansem's apprentices?

Another thing I was thinking about is that maybe Roxas isn't a Nobody at all. Maybe he's one of these so-called Chasers, putting him in the secret ending with Aqua and Terra. Then, Xemnas, Xehanort, or even DiZ had Namine wipe his memory and start him with a new life as a Nobody. This could help with the fact that Roxas is so heartfelt and emotional; because he isn't a real Nobody, he does have a heart.

Something I came up with in a matter of 2 minutes. Anyone care to help me expand?

 

There is a posibility that Ven could be vexen. Now lets revue. Ven is latin for wind. Vexen controlled ice. However Ven was trapped in Baldys ice thing. Maby that transformed him. And then he grew his hair. We cant say about voice becuase we havent heard vexen talk. However Ven has blue eyes and Vexen has green. Now if we go back to our eye theroy. Did Ven start blue thene became orange thne blue. Almost like Riku

 

That's another good point. I'm glad you brought that up, so now, theory dropped.

 

Why is Theory droped its plausible
Roxas isnt Ven Noruma confirmed that

 

Well, I guess it's because I'm fairly quick about dropping theories like that. Call me stupid. V-V

But yeah, it is sort of plausible, but I doubt Nomura would do something like that by making Ven the mini-me of Vexen, the official Brain of the Organization. I've been thinking too much...

 

well ive read on KHI about that...

Really the full orign of Kairi's Keyblade is unknown, but when Kairi asked Riku where he got the keyblade from, Riku's response was "I don't know, something began to trigger in my mind like a long lost memory and your keyblade appeared in my hand."

hers the link...http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom...78-interesting-note-kh2fm-s-extra-scenes.html

 

I did, and I'm still thinking about it.

 

I don't agree with Ven being Vexen. We already know that Vexen's nobody was named even. Also, nobody names mix up letters, not simply add one more. The one letter difference is a coinsidence.

Ok, good. Take your time. There may be some changes soon. If so, I will PM you.

 

Whats vexens real name? Oh yeah forgot about that nobody thing

 

Even is probley Vexen's name.

 

Vexen's name before he was a nobody was Even.