Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

Hm. You've got something good there, Mikain. It makes sense. Great theory. I haven't read anything similar to it yet. But if the KO (Knight Organization) are the memories, then... is that just it? Just the memories? There's probably more to the chasers then that.

But if you're saying that RK was the memory of Sora then how can that be if the secret ending was taken place far in the past? And if the ending was taken place in the past, then surely it would have had some sort of impact on either one of the games.

So I don't think that RK could have been Sora's memeory. But I do believe that maybe Xehanort-look-a-like had something to do with the real Xehanort's memories.

 

Alright, here is my theory:

Square has confirmed that the two characters (blue-haired female and Roxas-look-a-like) are named Aqua and Ven. As for the final Xehanort look-a-like, we're not sure what's up with him. I believe that Aqua and the Xehanort-look-a-like gave Roxas the name of 'Ven' before Xemnas gave him the name 'Roxas'. That would explain why they're exactly the same in appearance.

Another thing that I've been messing with but I haven't totally confirmed or denied yet is that the bald-guy in the secret ending is related somehow to Saix (ex., pointed ears, glowing red eyes).

And, another thing is that I think that the new game will be about Organization 13's origins and how they got started. I hope to see more of them because they were one of my favorite bad guy groups.

All of these theories are great to read about. Just make sure you have something to back them up with. Another one of my theories is listed here: If you are a complete Riku fanatic, don't read this:

http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=7756&highlight=Riku+Xehanort+are+related

 

Just maybe, Twilit Shadow... just maybe... I'm going to try and accumulate everything I've thought about into some solid theories. >.< Maybe it'll freakin' get me somewhere, huh?

 

I'm really not sure about this idea Chasers would be based on memories...How do you explain that Xemnas and Xigbar (and probably all the first 6 members of the Organization) remember Ansem the Wise and all their history with him ? Roxas has memory loss because Sora was not a Heartless for a very long time.

 

I agree with you. The first six members (and even Roxas) retained their memories of their past lives. But with Nomura's mind, you never know what to expect.

 

a-freakin'-greed. *falls over in failure*

 

It's alright higherbeing, we all mess up somewhere. but it was good theory while it lasted. Mine are just as weird and I don't have much to say about the chasers. All I can say is that I think they're 'chasing something' which would imply the word Chasers. But what exactly they're chasing, we may not know until Nomura explains it.

 

Anyone have an idea on why Baldy and the Dark Soldier have the same symbol of an eye on their keyblade just like Riku`s Souleater and Way to Dawn?

 

I saw that too. I think it might have to do with them being able to use the power of darkness.

 

Maybe the Organization has that symbol on their weapons, too? I never noticed it before.

Thanks twilit_shadow for your condolences. ^_^'

 

Your welcome!

And the Organization's weapons all have those same pointy things somewhere on them. Well, except for Xemnas. But other than that, I never saw the eye anywhere....I wonder.....

 

Hey, can I ask a question? Something I've been wondering, that I'd appreciate some help with, that's all.

You know that scene at the end of the original KHII, where the three of them read that letter from Mickey?

In an interview, Nomura stated that he had originally expanded that scene to explain what the letter said, but cut the explanation out for the final thing. He also said that he would like to put the original scene that explains the letter back in at some point. Does anybody know if he did this in KHII: Final Mix?

Thanks!
Sheshen.

 

Sorry nefersheshen, he never did. It would be nice if he did though! But, just to make sure, I suggest you ask one of the mods like Deathspank. He could tell you.

 

lol Thanks anyways.
I'll see what I can do... But I guess you're right.
That would be far too much info for Nomura to be giving us.
i.e. more than no info at all.

 

Yeah!! He said that he would put the whole thing in final Mix+!! Dumb A*****e.

 

Of course you have, you just don't know it...

When someone gives in to the darkness, it shows in their eyes. That orange tint is what gives it away. Just as the Xehanort look-alike (I refuse to commit!) undergoes the dark-transformation toward the end.

That is why Riku wore a blindfold. As quoted, 'His eyes couldn't lie'. He has one orange, one original. Half in dark, half old Riku. The Eye is clearly a reference to this phenonemon as its only featured on dark blades.

What I'm curious to know, is why he created a heart symbol in the sky. It was reminiscent of Kingdom hearts - so was he creating it? Calling it? What does the crossroads have to do with calling the heart of all worlds?

Yhorian.

 

Very interesting. I know where you're coming from now. And that makes a lot more sense now that you've brought it up. The eye probably symbilizes their connection darkness and how it's pulling them in the farther and farther they go. The Nobodies didn't use that symbol because they were already consumed by the darkness.

 

Not "consumed" : a Nobody can't be consumed by the darkness, since he doesn't have a heart that can be consumed or taken. But they're definitely tainted by their frequent use of the corridors of darkness : the same goes for Ansem the Wise, who also had yellow eyes.

The fact that Larry suddenly gets yellow eyes points out he's using darkness, possibly because it's his weapon of last resort in a desperate battle. And it is probably linked to his possible corruption, loss of memory and ending up as Xehanort.

 

kanji, that's really good.

 

That is good stuff, Kanji. Well done. So now we have a very likely possibility that the KO (Knight Organization) are dark users.

You were saying they'd use it as a last resort, I can tell why but... if they wanted baldy dead, don't you think they would've used this last resort as a first resort instead? By the looks of it, they want baldy dead. If using dark was a last resort then it had to be powerful. All's that I'm saying is that: They would've used it from the beginning, but they didn't for a special reason.

So now I summed up a different theory. They aren't dark users until: Baldy summons that heart. Then Larry goes dark. I say it's got to have something to do with that blue heart.