Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

I was thinking tht 2. If RK is Roxas he could be the last grave or so.but what about BHC? she could be the knight in the trailer which would mean she would be larxene.which i doubt it.

 

*drumroll* That's right, it's...
insane theory time! *clapping*
First off, I'd like to point out that while some things point to this being set in the past, others point to it being in the future.

Future
-As was pointed out earlier, the crossroads look rather dead and dried out. If these are the same originally green crossroads that we've seen before, it must have taken awhile for everything to die. There's the possibility that this is an entirely new crossroad, however.
-Why are the keyblades so old and rusty? Maybe it's because they haven't been used in awhile. Plus, how is it that the Chasers are able to use them?

Past
-Mickey isn't using his inverted kingdom key, but a different type of keyblade that he presumably received after training with Yen Sid.

Other notes
-I don't think it's possible that the RK could actually be Roxas. At first I was positive it was Roxas, but then something occurred to me. Let's say this happened in the past. Mickey was using his inverted kingdom key throughout the entire time Sora has been in the picture and Roxas was born when Sora became a heartless in the later part of the first game. How could Mickey be using his old keyblade while Roxas existed if Roxas was born AFTER Sora even appeared? Even if you say this happened in the future it isn't possible simply because of the laws of the world. Now that Roxas has returned to being a part of Sora's heart, he can't just exit and enter whenever he likes. We could go out on a limb and say that Sora can now transform into Roxas, but Nomura said that the three knights were completely new characters. *shrugs* That's my logic.

Now for my theory. I think the crossroads are where all of the keyblades go when they're not used. I think that the reason Sora, Kairi, Riku, and the King's keyblades are all in the middle is because those are their "default" keyblades. I suspect all the other keyblades are ones that correspond to a different world and can be activated using keychains. I think this is in the past because of a few different reasons. I suspect that the three keyblades haven't been used in awhile because there hasn't been a need for them to be used. Now the four "original" keybearers are needed to save the worlds and must reclaim their seperate keyblades. Mickey, who didn't participate in the fight, remains unhurt while the other three keybearers are defeated. This doesn't necessarily mean that they died, but perhaps they were so weakened that they either decided to pass the keyblades on to new bearers(AKA Sora, Riku, and Kairi) or that the keyblades chose new masters(I think this is a key element of Kingdom hearts that a lot of people have forgotten).

Now is where I start reaching the edge of the limb I'm already wobbling precariously on. Sora, Riku, and Kairi must reclaim their keyblades to fight a new enemy that Mickey has told them about through the letter that's seen in the secret ending of KHII. Let's say that the original keybearers also know about the new threat and decide that they need to reclaim their keyblades in order to fight it. That would explain why Sora fights one of the Chasers.

There's some holes in the theory and I didn't mention a lot about EVERY character, but this is my opinion.

 

well i don't think it is roxas but i think each nobody is a symbol of the past knights with slight alterations in appearance. and Blue haired chicky i'm not sure about...i think she was a survivor. i wish i had seen the part people are talking about. something about xemnas talking to a knight or something or other.

 

Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKZRIvkkxk&mode=related&search=

it is all the way at the end though

 

If this is all true which is pretty damn close to what i think is true then the next game maybe an inbetweener about these knights and if they include the orignal kh characters then most likely they' be fighting them to gain back their blades. Maybe since they couldn't defeat psycho bald guy, the keyblades considered them unworthy and moved on.

which brings me to a random question...why did it choose three keybladers from destiny islands...why didn't look harder considering there are more choices out there.

 

I see how Sora, Xehanort, and Kairi relate to this, but I'm not exactly sure how Mr. Baldy got in here. I'm guessing this happened in the past, as the people are older. Maybe Baldy is a form of evil from the past?

The Roxas-equivalent and the Kairi-equivalent were pretty much defeated by the end of the movie, so maybe they lost their hearts to Kingdom Hearts and were later reborn as Sora and Kairi- which would explain the "All fates are not coincidence" part. The Xehanort-like figure (as much as I can tell by the eyes transformation) gets the taint of the darkness and appears without a clue in the Radiant Garden, where his recurring memories then lead him to continue research in the powers of the heart and the darkness. This might explain the similaries in clothing between Baldy and Xehanort's heartless, as well as the costume similarity in Xehanort's Heartless/Baldy's puppets. The problem is, I can't see how Riku would tie into this.

As for Mickey at the end, I think he somehow managed to travel back in time to see these events. After all, what was he doing the entire time during KH1?

And because Nomura also hinted that this scene would happen again in the future, perhaps their "reincarnations"- Sora, Kairi, and the like- will converge?

Furthermore, I'm doubtful that we shall be seeing these knights again except for intros. The KH series is about the kids, after all.

 

will nvr noe:(

 

Huh...maybe it DID look harder. There's a possibility that the keyblades took awhile to find the proper masters and that's why so many worlds were already overrun with heartless by the time Sora, Riku, and Kairi entered the story.

I'm confused about Mr. Baldy as well.xD Maybe he was the old villian that the four original keybearers had to fight. Maybe he's already gone and died. That would only be the case if is this was in the past.

 

I always thoguht that the doube of the evil bald dude was like the worst case scenario of what would've happened to riku.

Now the reincarnation thing is a bit overdone, i doubt nomura would do that one. Besides the knights were defeated, you never see them die and blue haired chick was pretty alive at the end.

Okay crack theory, xehanort is the chaser with the glowy eyes and he defeated baldy but at the cost he got thrown into darkness and lost his memory. after all, the begining when they showed the knights for the first time in khII it showed the slight doubling of the first knight. maybe it was to show a conflict like with riku who glowed every time ansem tried to take over. maybe he could weild the darkness like Riku could and chose to do so at the end in order to get rid of baldy. therefore, i see riku fitting in

if kairi and sora were incarnations of the former ones then they would need a new keybader since xehanort didn't die! then that's were riku would come in...still BHK is a big variable in the whole thing

 

I think the guy whose eyes change colors is related to Saix. Because in the PV the Org. member in the end has the same build as Saix, and calls the person in armor friend. That person resembles BHC from what I could see, so that's why he's calling her friend.

 

...I died inside a little when the Roxas look-alike was thrown frozen off the edge of the cliff...
Anyways, that's actually a pretty good Xehanort theory. It would make sense with most everything else that's going on.

Maybe he's Saix's somebody? That still wouldn't make sense because Saix himself calls the BHC a friend and he would've forgotten about her when he turned into a nobody.

 

I thought nobodies remembered their times as humans, just Roxas was a special case.

 

they only have certain memories of emotions \when they become nobodies..not the actual memories themselves. Atleast that's what i figure since none talk about their memories, but always about remembering what it felt like. Now xehanort (xemnas) doesn't remember any of it. He said he didn't remember any other emotions save for hate. and Roxas didn't remember because Sora did not remain a heartless for long.

 

What about Xemnas remebering his name was once Xehanort and that Ansem was his master?

 

I almost cried, i was so shocked when he did that. i was hoping one of the knights would ghost him! anyway, i don't think it's Saix. because saix kinda...died. and honestly from the trailer i really couldn't tell which knight he was talking to. could even be the one who was frozen. besides the guy sits like Xemnas. Saix sits differently as shown in the cutscenes from KHII

and to further prove my theory of the knights' resting place being the castle, you see a lot of locked and barred doors at the end of the trailer. If you find one knight sleeping down then there are bound to be more. I believe it's Xehanort because he chose to go down there and wake that armor up. But here's the thing...how did xemnas gain the armor and dragon for the final fight unless he was at some point in his life was one of these uknown knights.

I dont think he ever forgot. he just got this creepy look when ansem called him Xehanort. and when mickey called him that he just smirked.

 

Only in my fanfic.xD

 

lol ooo you have a fanfic, can i read it?

 

For now it's written on a bunch of differently sized and textured pieces of paper.xD I'll type it up when I stop being so lazy and I put my darned video on youtube.
*starts reading the descriptions of other fanfics and eyes start bleeding* Wow. People come up with weird fanfics.
Anyways, I agree with the general idea that Xehanort completely lost all of his memory. On a side note, the Organization is pretty much dead by now so the next person to say that a member of the Org will come back in the next KH will be pummeled.

 

AHah! I have yet to finish the sequel to mine. ANd i have vid though i don't think it was very good. It was for roxas though.


darn, the secret endings make me want to do another fanfic


I'm still wondering what happened to blue haired chicky

 

Overall I think the knights were defeated, but BHC seems to be okay.
I just realized something: We've hardly touched the fact that Baldy practically opens the way to Kingdom Hearts. What does he do once he opens the path?