Did anyone understand FFXII Advent Children?

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  1. Twiceistoomany Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Final Fantasy XII Advent Children...I didn't really understand some of it.
    What did the disease do exactly?
    Edit: Oops I mean Final Fantasy VII I get so used to typing Org XIII all the time!
     
  2. Sir Charles of Monocles The Fault in Our Stars

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    I think you mean Final Fantasy VII Advent Children.

    Two years after the events of Final Fantasy VII, the Planet is recovering from the devastating attack by Meteor, while the survivors of Midgar have begun to build a new city, aptly named "Edge", on the outskirts of the old metropolis. However, a strange disease known as "geostigma" has arisen. After his showdown with Sephiroth, Cloud Strife established the "Strife Delivery Service", with the aid of Tifa Lockhart, whom he has been living with in Edge. Marlene Wallace and an orphaned boy named Denzel have been entrusted to their care.

    After receiving a message from Tifa, Cloud is attacked by three mysterious men who believe that he knows the location of their missing "mother". Cloud fights them on his motorcycle using an updated "Buster Sword" of sorts. However, the battle is cut short and he escapes. Hoping to gain information on the mysterious attackers, Cloud visits Rufus Shinra, the leader of the seemingly defunct Shinra Company. Rufus attempts to enlist Cloud's help to stop the trio, but fails. After their meeting, Kadaj, leader of the men who attacked Cloud, breaks into Rufus' lodge and demands that Rufus tell him where to find his "mother". It is revealed by Kadaj that "mother" is the remains of Jenova, and is somehow connected to the cause of the geostigma. Kadaj also announces that he and his "brothers", Yazoo and Loz, are planning a new "reunion" that will culminate in an assault on the Planet itself.

    Loz arrives at Aerith Gainsborough's church in an attempt to find their "mother", and is confronted by Tifa. A short battle ensues with Tifa holding the upper hand, burying Loz in a pile of rubble. Loz's consciousness is however quickly regained and he resumes the fight. After distracting Tifa, he uses his lightning-speed powers and hits her. She is hit once more by Loz, but Marlene distracts Loz by throwing materia from Cloud's storage chest. Loz closes in on Marlene and Tifa tells her to run just before the scene changes.

    Kadaj and his "brothers" begin collecting children infected with geostigma, including Denzel and the uninfected Marlene, and take them to the Forgotten City. Cloud goes to the Forgotten City and once there, battles with Loz and Yazoo in a match that shows many Limit Break Techniques from Final Fantasy VII. He almost takes the lives of Yazoo (with a "Cross Slash" Limit Break) and Loz (with a "Braver" Limit Break) while they fight in the trees, but he fails and ultimately loses after he uses a "Blade Beam" Limit Break (to block an attack from Loz) and Yazoo attacks him from behind, which is followed with Vincent Valentine saving him. Vincent reveals to Cloud what the trio are seeking and that it could result in the return of Sephiroth. He also tells him that geostigma is the result of one's body working excessively to fight off an infection brought on by Jenova's lingering presence within the Lifestream. Cloud agrees to return to Edge and face Kadaj in direct battle.

    In Edge, the villainous trio call forth several monsters to attack the populace, including the dragon summon "Bahamut SIN". While the other party members of Final Fantasy VII deal with Bahamut SIN, Reno and Rude attempt to take care of Yazoo and Loz until Cloud arrives. Through their teamwork, Cloud and his friends soon dispatch the monsters and Cloud finishes off Bahamut SIN with an updated "Climhazard" Limit Break. In a nearby building, Rufus reveals to Kadaj that he has been in possession of the remains of Jenova all along, tossing the box containing it from the edge of the building. Kadaj dives after the box and recovers it, although Rufus manages to damage the box, spilling some of the contents inside. Kadaj spots Cloud in hot pursuit of him, and a motorcycle chase carries them into the ruins of Midgar.

    Cloud catches up to Kadaj and they slide off of the end of the unfinished highway. They then go into Aerith's church where they confront each other. Cloud comes off worse for it until a magical blast from Kadaj destroys the flowerbed and releases an outflow of seemingly Lifestream-infused water which cures Cloud's geostigma and proves to be harmful to Kadaj. Cloud pursues Kadaj, who has fled to the ruins of Shinra Headquarters in the center of Midgar. The two fight and as Cloud has Kadaj in the brink of defeat, Kadaj distracts Cloud with the box containing Jenova's remains, which Kadaj then jumps after and absorbs into his body. Cloud attempts to land a deathblow to Kadaj but is stopped and parried in midair when Kadaj transforms into Sephiroth at a blink of an eye. He reveals that once those who die from the geostigma return to the Lifestream, he will be able to control it and use the Planet as a vessel to travel space in search of a new planet. battle between Cloud and Sephiroth follows across Midgar. Cloud eventually gains strength and confidence from thinking of everything he holds dear which Sephiroth would destroy. The battle ends with Cloud defeating Sephiroth with an updated version of his Omnislash Limit Break. Sephiroth dissipates, leaving a severely weakened Kadaj at Cloud's mercy. Aerith's spirit begins to pour healing rain across Edge, curing everyone of their geostigma. Aerith tells Kadaj to be at rest, who believes Aerith's voice to be that of his "mother", and he is taken by the Lifestream. After that, Cloud is shot by surprise by Yazoo. He and Loz are now slowly succumbing to the healing rain as well. They both have an arm full of materia, and they prepare one final blast at Cloud, resulting in a large explosion that disintegrates them and engulfs Cloud. Cloud appears surrounded by a white light, and Aerith and Zack are heard. Zack tells Cloud that his place is not with them yet, and sends him back to Aerith's church through the Lifestream.

    Cloud awakens in Aerith's old church with wounds healed, now surrounded by his friends and the citizens of Edge. He then demonstrates the healing powers of the water pooled in the church by curing the children afflicted with the geostigma. Cloud looks in the direction of his friends, and his first smile is triggered. He then suddenly stops when he sees Aerith crouching by some other children. As she stands and walks to the doorway, she turns back to assure Cloud that he's all right, and then steps into a white light with Zack. Finally at peace, Cloud agrees, and knows that he's no longer alone.

    At the end credits, Cloud is seen riding his Fenrir through a field of flowers, where Aerith is standing, seemingly waiting for him.

    gotten straight from wikipedia
     
  3. Atlas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I didn't get it at all both times i watched it, i just thought the fight scenes were cool, but thanks tdgw for clearing all that stuff up.

    wiki ftw.
     
  4. Laurence_Fox Chaser

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    It probably would have helped if you played Final Fantasy VII.
     
  5. Arch Mana Knight

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    Just so you know...the "updated" Omnislash is called Omnislash Version 5...and Clouds sword is...I think It was called the First Tsurugi...I now want to see this movie...*leaves to try to find and buy it* and I still need Crisis Core...poor Zack...
     
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    oh yeah... that helps... The game DEFINITELY helps...
    I was lost like you were before I played. =D
     
  7. Xendran Banned

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    VII. XII AC would be strange. And i just enjoyed the flashy effects. Story was there btu not really sgnifigant.
     
  8. Eh. The whole movie was fanservice for cool fights, there wasn't even a real plot, so it was just action. Graphics were awesome, but that's about it. Though to understand the background story, you need to play the game. Or search and read about it.

    The only reason I watched it through was to see all the CGI boy prettiness :3. Cloud, Reno (who Axel is based off, epic favor right there. Wish they didn't put him as slapstick comic relief though, along with Rude, I can't see that the guy who dropped Sector 7 without a seconds thought as a clown), Sephiroth, Rufus, Vincent, and...all the other pretties that I missed.

    That and, Aerith. She's so beautiful.
     
  9. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    The disease slowly killed you, I think. Some kind of proof that you were connected to Jenova one way or another.

    Or the planet was "mad" and infected people with Geostigma.


    CGI was amazing, especially with Nanaki and the pups at the beginning. And I love the way they had Kadaj and his gang almost childlike, but utterly insane. 8D
    I've never played FFVII...so I watched the movie about five times to understand it completely.
     
  10. thedancingprat Merlin's Housekeeper

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    ITs FFVII ADVent children

    i did understand it, but its confusing to explain.
     
  11. Legion Twilight Town Denizen

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    i never even got to play it
     
  12. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    FFVII: AC is a movie, Legion...I think people are just saying that you'll understand the movie more if you played the game. :3
     
  13. Misty gimme kiss

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    And if you don't feel like playing the game, there's something on the DVD that shows all of the important cutscenes in FFVII. :3
     
  14. Shiki my waifu is better than yours, thanks

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    I can never find the game >;/

    Emulator ftw?

    And yeah, if you've never played it, you'll never understand the movie xD
     
  15. P E A N U T ~*~Never Surrender~*~

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    I understood it just fine, and I've never played. But I guess that it helps that I watched my brother play through a lot of the game.
     
  16. Blademaster Mai'kel Hollow Bastion Committee

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    The stigma, by the way, was caused by the body's reaction to Jenova cells. The immune system overestimates the amount of force needed to kill the Jenova cells and instead damges the body, slowly killing the victim from within. It wasn't actually caused by the planet; that's basically propaganda devised by Kadaj.
     
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    I understood the movie, though the plot to me seemed rather weak. I think that's part of the reason many people didn't comprehend it. The plot was barely there. The action held the movie's flow together. Also, I thought the story centered way too much on Cloud and his emo, but then again I was not a real fan of Cloud any way, though I think he's alright. I did want to see more of the other characters and was grateful at least to see that Tifa had an awesome butt kicking scene. I also kind of did not get why Vincent was attacking people as a 'cape' instead of using some cool form like his final form. But...I had the chance to see more of that in DoC so I won't get held up over it. In the end, the movie to me was a fan service that lacked in plot, but was alright. I didn't hate the movie but it's not one of my favorites either.
     
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