Chain of Memories Did Anyone Notice This About Larxene?

this is alot. Even for a bookworm like me...I don't usually read things really long in the net...it hurts my eyes if it's bright. But what you wrote in the begining that they could be friends as somebodies--i agree--it's impossible, i mean Marly didn't seem like he cared when she faded away....

 

In one part of the manga in CoM When she tells Sora about Namine and he gets really angry that she took his charm She said it's the people like you that really get me angry you have no clue what's truly important. Obviouly refering to a heart. Just sumthing to think about.

 

Yep, I definitely thought of that, axel6123! lol It shows she wants a heart, even if she may not always show it.

And Axel probably was quite intelligent and was able to trick Larxene, as he was the one able to think of the entire double-crossing-plan. And that's true, it does seem Larxene and Marluxia have this slight distance, but she still respects him greatly, while she has much more in common with Axel (as a friend anyway). Basically, I would believe that Larxene just had something in common with Marluxia and they worked together, but otherwise, the game doesn't give an inkling to why they've decided to work together.

Oh, and Marluxia doesn't seem to care about Larxene fading away, but then again, neither did Axel. However, both being Nobodies, they wouldn't be able to feel anything, like they sometimes seem to show. Although in the scene where Axel confronts Marluxia, he does seem a bit upset, though it might be because it just proved that Axel tricked them. I'm really not sure what this means exactly, but basically, I believe that Marluxia didn't care about her, and only trusted her with the plan as they shared the same goal. Now that she was gone, he has to work alone. As for Axel's view on her, I tend to believe he would've tried to kill her himself if Sora didn't, showing that he didn't care much about it. Axel did attempt to kill Marluxia as he is a traitor, and since Larxene is also a traitor, he probably would've tried to kill her as well. But it's possible that if he had decided to do so, he would've shown some regret or remorse, but even that I'm not sure of. Either he does care about her a little bit, or he doesn't at all and was merely tricking her into a friendship.

 

Well it does seem that Larxene loved to think she had feelings. So Axel probably just used this against her.

 

Hmm, good point there. But then again, the game makes no inkling to how Axel managed to get on good terms with her. It could be anything. He could've tried to use the fact that she loved believing she had feelings, like you said, or he just managed to get to know her more, and became good friends. It could be anything.

 

Well in the end I think Axel did everything he could to help Roxas because he needed him to get Roxas back or because Roxas was part of him.

 

The only things that made me think that Axel did somewhat care for her, is the fact of his actions. Unlike Marluxia, Axel did not go after Larxene, and actually left a spot open for escape, intentionally or not. If she didn't go after Sora (why, Larxene, why?), she would have had a chance to run away. Another scene is when he gives her the card, and when she disappears with her wave of the hand, there's a one moment close-up of Axel looking contemplative for a moment at the spot where she left, before he turns cocky again. I pause on his facial expression, but I can't tell perfectly well what it is.



I don't know whether that's mad, annoyed, sad, thoughtful, or whatever :xp:. I'm not good at this. Probably annoyed, sad, and thoughful at the same time?

BTW, damn, Axel is freakin' sexy *cough*.

And Axel all, but laughed at her death. When killing Vexen, he was gleeful and joked around all smiling. With Zexion, he smirked coldly and watched. With Marluxia, he acted like all men would when fighting another guy. When he mentioned Larxene to Marluxia he seemed serious, and I don't know if it's my Larxelness, I have no idea, but I could swear that I saw a flicker of sadness when he mentioned her name in Re: CoM. Or maybe is my eyes tricking me *shrug*.

But otherwise, Axel is a wild card, and is hard to know what's in his mind. Though I wonder what Larxene did when she found out what Axel did, if it was anything close to the manga, cause she already knew by the time she appeared to Sora and Co. If one's not a trustful person, trust is very important to the said individual, as they rarely give it to anybody, and is hard to gain.

 

Well, that's true...Axel does seem a bit contemplative, if not slightly regretful, in that scene, and so I should think he does care about her, even a small tiny bit, from those actions you just said, but otherwise, it could just be nothing really, and, taking full advantage of the Nobody he is, feels nothing. But otherwise, like you said, Axel's unpredictable, as the game really doesn't say otherwise, aside from those bits of clues.

And I suppose once she found out, she became angry with herself, and then became more closed to everyone else, and possibly, if she had managed to live, probably wouldn't trust anyone very easily anymore (not that she had already...so she would be even more distrustful). But that's just me guessing, but basically, I should think she's very angry and regretful, but she deosn't like to show it all the time, as in the game, when she appears to Sora and co. on the 13th floor, she sounds like her usual sarcastic, playful self, until she mentions Axel. Then she becames in a 'foul mood,' possibly showing how much it may have bothered her, but she was trying to still be her usual self, as much as Nobody can show emotions anyway. But, basically, I should think it's made her very upset that Axel, the guy she has given her (possibly hard-earned) trust to, betrayed her and Marluxia. And I believe Axel does feel a tiny bit of remorse, but being a Nobody, basically feels nothing, which he takes advantage of. But that's just my assumption.

And yeah, I agree with you. Axel's sexy. lol

 

*snaps fingers* There we go. Regretful. That's the word I was looking for. It was like he was having second thoughts. I don't think it could be simply nothing, as he had no reason to give that look or do any of the actions he committed without having some kind of attachment to Larxene (not like romantic or anything like that...even I don't think that. You get what I mean).

I don't think Axel takes advantage of being nothing like Larxene would, is that basically he just didn't give a damn about the other members. And while he did hesitate a little with Larxene, he was more loyal to the 13th Order in the end. I think he found the whole situation he was doing absolutely fun. So no, I don't think he felt nothing.

Honestly, I think Axel was far more cruel than Larxene is in CoM. people just get to close to the more emotional KH2 Axel, and forget the CoM Axel, when he's obviously selfish and doesn't care about anyone but himself or Roxas. He destroyed traitors, when he became one himself, and so did Roxas. Not only is he two-faced, he's a hypocrite. Bet you anything if Roxas didn't make him feel like he had heart or was special enough to do that, he wouldn't give a damn for the kid in the first place or be interested in Roxas' phenomenom. It wasn't until he actually got close to him while becoming his friend I'd think, that he figured he could be a real friend and can care, cause he truly liked the kid (as a friend). But "I digress". I'm probably wrong in this assumption.

I think other than her trust that she gave Axel, which is probably the main thing, what made her even more angered is that everything went down in flames, pun intended. Axel was the sole reason the whole thing screwed up, as he let Naminé free. Not only did he betray her, but now everything she perhaps worked hard for to do meant nothing. Her betrayal to the Org. was for nothing. She even said it herself, "We nearly had you". Think of it like you wanted to reach a goal, and it was so close you can almost taste it, only to suddenly get it taken away from you. That kind of disappointment.

Larxene vented her rage and negative feelings on Sora, which was a bad idea, but I think that's how she can cope. She never thought she was going to lose anyway. Larxene is far too confident to think that way.

And you're right. She would have become more distrustful. Even more apathetic maybe, thinking no one is worth trusting. And indefinitely close up Axel from her view of his nonexistance completely, even though the only way she could come back to the Org., is that Axel lies and covers for her to Xemnas.

 

I havnt played RE: CoM, nor FM+ yet, but I always thought it strange.... You never truly see the Nobodie's side of things in KH2, you never truly see their viewpoints or anything. The existance of a nobody, even, was explained by someone who seemed to hate them to begin with, so what if, Nobodies DO infact have all these emotions, theyre just shoved to the side by Sombodies because of their different existance? What if Nobodies do in fact, have a heart, but all along, the 'somebodies' or 'real people' were all along the bad guys, beating these people into despair and not giving them the equality they deservered? Maybe I was the only one that found Xenmas' words moving. Why don't they get to exist? Who says they dont deserve life?


P.S: I thought Larxene was the sexiest character in all of KH ever <.< >.> and that was before she was in 3d or the mangas....

 

^ Xemnas himself clarified that Nobodies don't have hearts, as do Saix, Axel and a whole bunch of others even outside of Final Mix.

And then there's Nomura too who also said that.