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  1. Roxas OG

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    I visit a website where people get help with their problems, etc. One of the main problems dealt with there is cutting, and they are depressed when they do it. They don't just cut for the sake of cutting, they cut so they can rid themselves of their depressed feelings.

    I know it doesn't heard, I've read accounts of it happening. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes you don't feel it. But it is nevertheless connected with depression and ultimately goths and emos, because as you said they are all depressed.
     
  2. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Well they are all depressed, but not all of them cut. Only the ones that have no self control whatsoever. None of my emo friends cut, does that mean they aren't emo? No. Like you even said yourself, it's a stereotyped idea. Once it happened with a goth person, the clique of 'emo' was made. Now we have 'scene.'

    And also, some emo's do cut for the sake of cutting. Sure, they do it because they might be depressed, and they also do it to rid themselves of their feelings; but the point is, is that they do other things too. Surely, you must know.

    Depression on emo's and goth's differ's. Much like Religion, once the protestants of the Roman Catholic church /became/ the protestants, it was a new sect ulitimately having different practices.

    The exact same idea happened to goth and emo. Goth started, then cutting and bolimia started, and instantly emo grew to be a new 'part' or 'sect' of goth. Goth was originally never a depressive clique, it was just the 'hardcore' rock style way back in the 70's and 80's. Then, like I said, new things happened, and it had 'emo' grow into it.

    o-o I am so bored right now...*sighs*
     
  3. hahannuh Gummi Ship Junkie

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    first of all cutting is not something stupid. i've done it and a lot of people think that it's because they are either punishing themselves, looking for sympathy, or are releasing bad energy. actually, cutting releases good feelings. it's like a bugbite that you scratch until it bleeds. it hurts but it also feels good. i know it does seem stupid, that's what i thought at first but you don't really know until you've learned about it and experienced it.

    EDIT! i'm not saying that cutting is a good thing. i've stopped for sure. but please don't think that it's completely pointless and pitiful. i know that it doesn't do good but i understand why people do it.

    i don't mean to sound stereotypical but i think goths and emos are just posers. i mean i'm bright and i love to have fun. plus i have a bunch of friends. but i still went through it.
     
  4. Arc Kingdom Keeper

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    Ok, first off guys, alot of people that cut, myself included at one time(I stopped once I got with my current girlfriend) do it to rid themselves of emotional pain. cutting makes the emotional hurt turn into physical hurt, which is ALOT easier to deal with, that was what drove me to cut from the age 14-20. I know its not good, but for me at those times it was the best thing I knew how to do to stop from blowing my brains out, so please, dont say that its pointless and stupid, because I know, had I not done it in my past, I wouldnt be here today. Now, each one of those scars represent something to me that says I have to work to become a better man. I look at my arms and see my pain now, like a blueprint of my past.
     
  5. Samurai King's Apprentice

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    You can't think you're better than people who cut themselves. They do so, because it may be the only thing that gives them a shred of happiness. (Not to offend anyone who does it)

    If you put yourselves in their shoes for a nano-second, you would see what it's like.

    I've thought about doing it several times. And I once did it. But, I couldn't do it again.
     
  6. Rouge Angel92 Twilight Town Denizen

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    I'm a really sensitive person, so I get depressed alot. Or I just feel sad.
    But I've never resorted to cutting myself cause one people will question me about them, Two, I hate pain, and Three, there's no way I could do it without getting caught. So I cry and yes I have gone to school and started crying but I only cried for about five minutes or so. It's embarrassing cause its stupid and weak. So I've really been trying to fight back tears when I get that way.
    Sometimes I just start drawing when I get that way for some reason.
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    I know why people cut themselves and it makes me sad cause it does so much more ahrm than good. Yet they still do it.
     
  7. 1winged_angel Destiny Islands Resident

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    Yea I understand, I mean I get why they would cut themself but it really doesn't help...at all....it would be wiser to just get it out in the open and release ur feelings instead of that, tell a person u trust or cry alone...umm..I dunno..thing is don't keep it bottled inside u enough that ur feelings make u want to cut urself to relieve that mental strain
     
  8. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Some people, unfortunately, can't do that. Usually when they are in that state of mind, they feel alone; unwanted; disregarded; etc.

    I understand what you mean, Arc. I guess there is different ways of what or how or WHY people cut themselves. I know you do it to make mental pain physical, but I also know some who cut to make their mental pain more like a pleasure. They claim it doesn't hurt at all, even though it looks very painful. .-.
     
  9. hahannuh Gummi Ship Junkie

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    actually cutting is really hard to control. it usually happens instantly after an fight or anything bad. after i would get in fights with my parents i would go straight to my scissors. i know it's really stupid but when i used to cut i felt that if i didn't cut myself i would kill myself. it happens really quickly. esp in the beginning it's a lot of anger/frustration so it's hard to just stop and cry or call somebody.
     
  10. Demonic Angel Moogle Assistant

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    I suffer from depression. It's not fun. :(

    I haven't resorted to cutting, but, alas, I've considered about it. Pondered, if you will.

    But I doubt I'd ever do it.
     
  11. Drunken Roxas Destiny Islands Resident

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    Personally Im the Kind of Person who can kill someone and not care I know its a sick thing but its better than having to go through things...also if you think about the word "Sad" many words are changing from there original meaning because the word "Sad" has now become a word for Pathetic People where as the word Depresed is automatically linked to "Emo" or "Goth" but I dont think those labels should be used for being depressed I know people who arent "Emo" or "Goth" who are very much depressed who hate there life and resorts to slitting many people I know are emos but they are perfectly fine they think of it as a fasion statemtn I am 13/14 and I have slit my wrists when I was around ten because I lost an Uncle who was very much dear to me as a idol he killed himself because the presure of life became too mich money, drugs and alchohol all became to much I slit my wrists to turn my Mental and Emotional pain into Phychical because Physchical pain is usually easier to get out of the way I do not suffer from depression I just have diferent view on life but I have changed like I said at the begingin of the post I am slightly emotionless but everything changes.

    (If I didnt make a point sorry this is my first post on intelegent discusion)
     
  12. JackS27 Twilight Town Denizen

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    The trick is not letting it get to you. The trick is, as hard as it is some times, to say "I don't like feeling this way, so I'm not going to let myself." Do something you enjoy. Like the old saying, "If you go out and pretend to have fun, you might have a little true fun by accident."
     
  13. twilightsown King's Apprentice

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    @Drunken Roxas: Don't feel that you haven't made a point, you have. You've merely made quite a few of them in an amount of space where you could have gone into greater detail on one. I have known people who cut their wrists, and I can understand where you are coming from with the loss of a loved one. When I was about your age (maybe a bit older) I lost my closest friend to an illness no one knew he had. I went into depression for a long time about it, but came out of it because I have been through a lot of death and dissapointment in my life. I think the difference in how we handled it is merely how we respond to it. People tell me all the time I am upbeat and optimistic, but I can become depressed extremly quickly, shutting everyone off from myself, and just go sulk somewhere. The only reason I think I never cut is I am terribly frightened of physical pain. So it was never an option for me. What I guess I'm getting at is that life sucks, I know it does, but don't become a lifeless emotionless blob because of it. If things are going to be bad anyway, you might as well try and be optimistic. I missed out on a lot of experiences during my times I was depressed, and I have made a vow to myself that I'm never going to do anything again that I will regret. So I have forced myself to go out and live. Just stay with it. I won't tell you to change, I can't and shouldn't say that. I merely offer some advice on where I am coming from. I hope this helped somewhat, and if not I apologize.
     
  14. Roxas OG

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    I have a question for some people who cut themselves:

    How come you don't feel pain?
     
  15. hahannuh Gummi Ship Junkie

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    i did feel pain. it helped me calm down for some strange scientific reason. i know this sounds psychotic, but i kind of liked the pain. it felt... not painful but more "adventurous" i can't really explain it.
     
  16. Drunken Roxas Destiny Islands Resident

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    Ive only had one Phase of Depression which I left but I did slit I geuss like I said in the post before turning Emotional Pain into Phychical was alot easier and yes it did hurt but it was slightly nubed by the reason I was doing it.
     
  17. DarknessKingdom The Kingpin of the TV

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    I've had a state of depression but nothing really serious. I don't think it actually should be stated 'depression' cause I just felt sad about 9/11.

    But I hate it how people think that cutting their wrists/inflicting pain on themselves will solve the problems in their life. In the end, they're running away and they're not actually going to settle the things that need to be settled.

    When these people who are in a state in depression, slit their wrists and are dying slowly, do they actually think of their loved ones who are alive?
     
  18. hahannuh Gummi Ship Junkie

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    first, cutting does not kill people (unless it's the intense type where they slit their whole body). and usually it's their "loved ones" that create this anger/depression. it's hard to really think about anything good when only terrible things are running through your head.
     
  19. twilightsown King's Apprentice

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    Hahannuh is right, I went through a bout of depression, however I did not slit my wrists. as I've stated before, I'm simply to afraid of physical pain. However, I can see where they're thought process comes from. The mental pain they are feeling is so great, that they need a way to releave(sp?) it. I do not agree with it, but I can understand it.
     
  20. In_the_Twilight Twilight Town Denizen

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    Just like A.D.D., Depression seems over-used and overrated to me. It appears everyone is depressed with some form of attention deficeit disorder
     
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