daredevil season 2

the story of a blind man, lost, stranded on a rooftop accidentally finding his way into background shots

 

i'm not sure if i'm ready to watch season 2 because matty got his fancy suit at the end of s1 and i'm still lamenting the loss of the black shirt he used to wear

 

I still have to watch the first season

 

This is my favorite image ever:

Don't worry, there's like twice as many shirtless shots that my girlfriend (and admittedly I) am appreciating.

 

In the second episode, you can see my place of work in the background of a shot (well, one location of our company).
It was weird for me.

 

"No one dies, but it's cool to grab their neck with a chain, pull them over the railing, and drop them on their back on a set of stairs two flights down."

 

im going to trust that he knows what will kill a guy. i dont think that would but it may paralyze them in which case daredevil kills all quality of life, which can be argued to be as bad as murder. however in comics theres this universal suspension of disbelief that every living being can take an astronomical amount of damage and not die. so while he's brutalizing these guys, its not the same as shooting them in the face, which in the case of comics is all that really matters. because watching a guys in red devil and black bat costumes just isnt as fun if theyre not ****ing these guys up.

 

I just watched this episode and I'm like no way Matty didn't waste like three or four of those guys

 

can we get that show?
i get that that persons probably trying to incorrectly make some snide commentary on racism
but idc i would watch the hell out of that.

 

I just finished the season and I have Questions. I think maybe I'm missing some pretty major things

Spoiler

• what is the black sky (yes I know it's Elektra but what does that actually mean?)
• how does the whole black sky/hand thing correlate with the Frank castle/blacksmith plot? it felt like the whole black sky and yakuza thing was just kinda tacked on
• why are they trying to put Karen and Matty together when she is so clearly meant to be with foggy
• what the **** was that hole
• I want to know Karen's backstory. a lot was alluded to and I really want them to go more in detail
• Matt's way of telling Karen he's daredevil was ****ing nuts
• is Elektra meant to be insufferable? I cheered when she got poisoned and when she died. I know she's probably going to come back but uuuuuugh
• I love Claire
• what the **** was that hole???

overall I liked this season a lot less than the first

 

Spoiler

• Black Sky I think is supposed to be the title the master of The Hand. I believe it's a reference to something from the Marvel comics: a person killed by The Hand and resurrected under their control.
  
• I don't believe there's a correlation between The Hand and Frank Castle. It felt like two seasons stitched into one.
  
• I never got the feeling that Foggy and Karen were going to be a thing honestly (Foggy's got that one blonde girl around still), but Matt and...anyone, doesn't feel that good either.
• Hell if I know what that hole is for. Some people speculate it's more resurrection stuff, or it's in connection to Roxxon, a big corporation in the Marvel comics universe, usually villainous. I dunno.
• I wasn't aware Karen had much backstory beyond what happened in Season One
• Yeah....yeah...
• Elektra was handled poorly to me. I feel like I would have liked her a lot if she made sparing appearances, but we got way too much.
• Yes
• shrug

I think this season could have been better if they cut Elektra's stuff down to a quarter of what we got, they actually explained the Black Sky, and there was some ANY interaction between Frank and Elektra. That absence cements to me that this season was two different storylines stuck together.

I still enjoyed it, but it's a low 8, maybe 7.5 where Season One was like a 9.25 (still hated his first DD helmet.)

 

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spoilers if you dont want to know source material??? they prob will go into karens backstory in s3 bc she has some dark **** in her past and kingpin exploits this to get daredevils identity so we know he's still around and we now know she knows the identity so you can see the pieces being moved into place. i almost just dont want them to do anything else with elektra in s3 bc thats the weakest part of this whole show and i want them to stick to top tier quality stuff and finish strong.

someone described this season as an entire comicbook run compared to the first one which is like a single arc in a run. meaning that in the first season every episode contributes to one story. while in season 2 you can separate the episodes into about 4 episode chunks that each deal with a different thing that are related by virtue of the main character. the first arc would be the punisher arc, the second would be the punishers trial, and the third would be the black sky stuff. and he didnt use this a way to justify things that dont work, he was just speculating on how it was made.
i thought that was an interesting take on this season.

i dont think karens meant to be with foggy

 

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It was such a big revelation when Elektra discovered what she was but it completely fell flat because I'm sitting there like... okay... what does that mean? Why does it matter? Clearly they didn't have any real control over her. I wanted there to be some kind of compelling angle added to her character so I could justify suffering through her presence.

That's fair, they definitely did nothing with the two of them (romantically) this scene obviously, but I felt the first season kind of hinted at it in places. I'm not going to be too put out if they don't get together but I definitely don't like Karen and Matt at all.

It was such a huge cliffhanger though! And such a crazy thing! Like they end an episode with "holy **** look at this massive hole" and then Stick shows up and The Hand plotline starts moving forward with the creepy blood transfusion and ninja **** but I'm like OKAY WHAT ABOUT THE HOLE

When she was at the Bulletin's office and the guy there took her into Ben's old office, he pulled out a file Ben was keeping on her. There was a newspaper article that said something like "teen killed in mysterious accident" that Karen was apparently apart of. She also had all these little comments through the season that kind of insinuated to some big stuff behind her, her empathy and saying something to the reporter like "you of all people should understand why I sympathize with Castle so much." And then I think in the diner, her and Frank are talking about her owning a gun, and she says like "this isn't my first rodeo" -- which could definitely be a reference to season one but idk, just feels like there's a lot more to Karen.

i'm glad, i love karen

That's definitely an interesting way of seeing it but it just felt altogether really disjointed, like Haya said two seasons stitched into one. imo the Castle/Punisher arc was way more interesting and in line with season one because it dug at some deep ethical questions and of course was concerned with government corruption and crime and stuff. The Hand stuff by contrast was just sort of... mythical and seemingly served just to distract Matt from the Castle case and, by result, a lot of things were left hanging. There's this entire question that's explicitly prevailing over season two of when it's necessary to kill; Matt of course maintains the entire time that killing is wrong and refuses to do it, but then starts to be tempted by Frank's reasoning and, when they're on the boat, seemingly crosses over to Frank's side. But that's all that ever comes of it. Sure they can take it further in the next season, Frank is still alive after all, but the arc just felt incomplete and almost abandoned.

I wanted everything to come together in a satisfying way and it never did.

Yeah I still really enjoyed it, the first season just set such a high standard that this one was disappointing in comparison.

 

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It's weird to me how hard it seems for live-action to get Elektra right. Like I think the Netflix series finally did it well basically when she got her final costume, but then what happened happened and that was the end of the season. I'm not sure how she's treated in the comics outside knowing that she was created by Frank Miller but all I know about her arc is that she dies to make Matt feel conflicted about stuff

 

Is it true Daredevil is a homosexual and he had a relationship with Lex Luthor?

 

hey what the **** which one of you leaked my fanfic

 

dis

 

...people liked Karen but not Elektra?
That's weird to me.