Birth by Sleep Crazy theory

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by Sir Charles of Monocles, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. Sir Charles of Monocles The Fault in Our Stars

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    I was watching the secret ending for KH2 FM+ and I got a weird thought In my head. What if Ven was Sora's older brother. Ven's keyblade could have been made from the connection of Ven and Sora, so when it broke, Sor forgot about him. Yes I admit that this is highly untrue but still.
     
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    Yes, highly unlikely.
    I've never heard of a keyblade having a connection with memory. Roxas, gained the power to wield keyblades cause of Sora, but has no memories of him. =/
     
  3. khsuperfan Banned

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    Ven is Sora's older brother, and a girl like Namine, or Namine herself made Sora forget because Ven is the Light sleeping in the dark. I've said this in other posts. In COM, VExen shows Sora Twilight Town, and says that its the memory from the other side of his heart. Thus it gave birth to Roxas. Roxas looks like VEn because of the hidden memory in Sora's heart that has been lost, but not forgotten.
     
  4. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    You see, this is exactly why I hate theories. Cause someone is always gonna say somethin' stupid. XD

    You and the topic poster are wrong on so many levels.

    You keep thinkin' about the hairstyle. Just because they look alike doesn't mean anything. Besides, how the hell is a memory gonna transfer from one person to another? It doesn't make any sense. There is no proof behind it. To correct this and yer 'theory'

    Namine merely erased those memories in order for Sora and his friends to regain the ones they lost when they entered Castle Oblivion. It can't be because of Ven and we STILL don't know who he is. When Vexen refers to the 'other side' of his heart, he's talking about Roxas, since Roxas is Sora's other half as a Nobody. Sora's Nobody was merely created from Sora impaling himself with that dark Keyblade that Xehanort's Heartless had and the reason Roxas has no memory of being Sora is because of the latter's amount of time spent as a Heartless. It has nothing to do with what one looks like

    If looks were truly the case, then we could easily say Riku and Sephiroth were related. : p
     
  5. khsuperfan Banned

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    are u kidding me kid. Ven IS Sora's older brother, and trust me i've heard this too and went "This is crap", but then i took another look at it, and saw that it could very well be true. Look at these pic's, and look at the pic's of Destiny Islands:http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=45666
    Ven is talking to Aqua, telling her to "erase" him. Were else have we heard that term?
    COM!!!!!!
    Namine talks about erasing Sora's memory, and stuff. Ven could've very well been erased by Aqua, that would explain the connection between Namine and Aqua. Ven is still asleep, and the only one who still has a spec of memory of him is Sora and Xemnas/Terra/Ansem. Sora is the Key that connects them all...because he's Ven's younger brother. Roxas is an example of the memories starting to awaken of Ven, because Roxas looks exactly like Ven. Tell me one flaw......FO SHOW!!!
     
  6. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    -Slaps you silleh- Have you learned NOTHING? XD

    Have you NOT paid attention to what happened in Kingdom Hearts. The only memory Namime erased were of those in Castle Oblivion. Sor'as Nobody was created PRIOR to Chain of Memories when Sora became a Heartless. As I've said countless times: LOOKS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RELATIONSHIP IN KINGDOM HEARTS! DX
     
  7. khsuperfan Banned

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    u'r rediculous. Yes all ff/kh characters are similiar, but in some cases the simiilaities go way beyong the same creator repeating designs. And what're u talking about there, the fact that Roxas and Ven look like identical twins? Besides, listen to the theory. All u'r doing is trying to prove it wrong, but u'r just making yourself seem like a bloody ******. If you continuelly put a negative view on this THEORY (remember, its just a theory), then i'll have to pimpslap you in a debate.....FO SHOW!!!
     
  8. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    khsuperfan, I highly doubt that Ven is Sora's older brother. Nobody has realitives in kingdom hearts, so why now? Other than parents, but still. And please try to use better spelling and grammer.
     
  9. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I'm tryin' to prove it wrong because IT IS WRONG! XD

    I present a negative view on this theory because it's absolute bullcrap. There has never once been any hinting at anyone being related to one another. You and them other dudes keep on thinkin' that looks connect characters together. Because with that kind of view on them, yer insultin' Nomura. I highly doubt he'd be so shallow as to decide to connect characters based on pure resemblance. If that were the case, then we can always say that Riku was related to Sephiroth simply for the fact they both have green eyes, silver hair and the power of darkness. XD Namine is Kairi's Nobody, yet she looks nothing like her.

    You may wanna rework yer attitude and yer 'theories', cause seem to get more and more whack every time

    And stop endin' yer posts in 'FO SHOW', you obviously haven't proven your point. XD If there's one thing I know, it's that you NEVER connect characters together just because of their appearances. Get yer FACTS straight. If you wanna prove a theory, use EXISTING AND CONCRETE facts, not fan made theories that could possibly be used to appease the fangirls and fanboys who'd probably use them in bad fanfics. XD
     
  10. khsuperfan Banned

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    i'll stop this, cause u'r just a f*#king reatard. Your not open minded like most of us, so your just in denial of the facts. We'll see whos right in Decmber, when the game comes out. I may be wrong, and if i am, ill admit, but right know i support this theory until i hear convincing evidence that its wrong.
    FO SHOW!!!!
     
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    I think I'll wait until July when it comes out in Japan and spoilers leak out onto the interwebz~
     
  12. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I'm not a ******, fer yer information. And I AM opened-minded

    Yer lack of proper spelling and unability to provide concrete evidence proves ye has already lost this debate. Like I've said before, wait till the damn game comes out before comin' up with stupid theories cause all they do is put people at war with one another. o: Like I've said before, I whole-heartedly disagree with this theory because there's absolutely no proof behind. It's just somethin' a fan made up. You CANNOT base theories on merely appearances. How much will it take fer ye to realize that? o: Unless you can prove this theory WITH EVIDENCE, REAL FACTS AND PROOF, yer theory is completely invalid, as most people have already said about this theory

    And usin' FO SHOW doesn't make ye any better. : p
     
  13. khsuperfan Banned

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    i now i ain't quitting u little F*&%%#(&^#$(*&$*$ker.



    Your not open minded, and if u THINK about it, then u'd at least put some consideration into this theory. Remember.....THINK! oh, thats right...U CANT THINK, UR A ******!!!!!
    ok, maybe i am getting a little carried away with the language, but u threw the "First Punch" here buddy. Wide u get all offensive and stuff against the theory, huh? But seroiusly, u need to stop this. I'm not basing this theory on looks, exept for the FACT that Roxas and VEn look EXACTLY ALIKE! I'll make a poll on this, and most people WILL AGREE, you DUMBASS! But its more so about Twilight Town, The Orginizations true goal, and THE OTHERSIDE OF SORA"S HEART!!!
    It's all about VEN!!!!
    FO SHOW!!!!
     
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    But if they were, that would be SO cool!
     
  15. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I'm open-minded. Just not about theories. XD

    And I CAN think. Yer just ignorant. XD

    I didn't throw the first punch. I just said what everyone else said. I was just blunt and direct and honest about it. XD

    Like anyone sensible person would say: Appearance NOTHING to do with relationships. You play on like a broken record player. You keep sayin' Ven is Sora's older brother, but ye doesn't provide us with any evidence or proof of that, but ye seems to view that as an offense so you come up to meh tryin' to choke me to death about it. XD Yer not even debatin' anymore, yer just tryin' to say how right you are instead of PROVING how right you are. XD The other side of Sora's heart is Roxas. Roxas IS SORA'S other half, the Organization has stated this before as well as DiZ/Ansem. Ansem CLEARLY stated that Roxas HOLDS HALF OF WHAT SORA IS. Or does none of that register in yer brain? XD It was NEVER about Ven, it was about the KEYBLADE. The Organization was after the Keyblade's power, so they set up Sora to fight the Heartless cause only that weapon can unlock the hearts which is what they needed to fuel and complete Kingdom Hearts. THAT was what it was all about. THAT is what KINGDOM HEARTS was about XD Do you understand, or are you gonna still play the same song over and over again. Cause now yer just gettin' off topic in order to kill meh because I disagree with yer theory. XD

    That would be so cliche then. XD
     
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    Both of you cut the flaming this instant. >_>

    Anyway, I agree with Kai, Noruma woulden't do something as predictible as make Ven soras brother. Knowing them theyd have some epic crazy plot twist to explain why he looks like Roxas.

    And even if he were Soras brother there would have to be some utterly epic reason for it. Something to make all the people go wtf?!

    Frankyly I don't see it happening.
     
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  18. khsuperfan Banned

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    all right, i'll calm down, but i'm not giving up. I respect all your opinions, truly i do....and like i said before, i use too think this theory was a piece of junk to...but re-looking at the bbs pic's of Destiny Island just made me think. I'm truly sorry to every body, and especially 2 Kaihedgie. U'r not a ******, i was just in a bad mood or somethin', cause my grades were goin' down and ****. But i'm ok now, and like i said, i'm sorry to everybody. I guess we'll have to see whether this theory is crap, or not crap in the near future. I won't say anymore about the theory.....(on this post anyways....^__^)
    P.S.- Does spelling matter? as long as u can read it.
    FO SHOW!!!!!!