Birth by Sleep Crazy Master Xenahort and Apprentice Theory

Ok heres my thoery on MX and hes appremtice:

After Xenahort's Apprentice losing to the three knights, Aqua, Terra and Ven, hes body begins to fade, but, Master Xenahort's leftovers took the chance to unite with the body and forming a young and inteligent man named Xenahort. After studies about the heart of the worlds and doors, he was begining to be tempted by Master Xenahort's leftover memories to obtain limitless power from Kingdom Hearts and so he tainted the hearts of the other five apprentices of Ansem The Wise to lead their hearts into darkness and let their bodies turn into nobodys. By that with Xenahort's Heartless and Nobody, he became very close to attain Kingdom Hearts twice, but, no thanks to the familiar power of the keyblade, he was stopped and destroyed. But since Nobodies don't exist, they can't die leading us the question of, what happens to a Nobody when its vanquishe by the keyblade? Well my answer is that when a person remembers positive memories of the nobody, the nobody begins to obtain power and begins to return to our world, since Master Xenahort was a close friend to Terra and Terra IS alive, Xemnas A.K.A. Xenahort can return any time. Leading us that Master Xenahort can have limitless tries to conquer Kingdom Hearts for one day become his older self again.

I want some comments of my theory PLZ!

 

Huh? Positive memories about a nobody can allow them to return? That makes rather little sense to me, but okay.

So far what we've assumed about nobodies is that, since they have no hearts, when they are defeated, their bodies die and their spirits simply stop existing in this frame of life, as they have no hearts to lead them on to a normal afterlife. The only thing that would show they continue to exist at all is Axel's comment "See you in the next life." Referring to some kind of afterlife or other plane of existence in which they would both go after dying.

If positive thoughts alone could bring back a "dead" Nobody, I don't think we'd have any problems having Axel back. There were plenty of positive thoughts running through Sora's and Roxas' minds after his death. If your theory were true, Axel would have been all hunky-dorey with Sora throughout TWTNW.

However, your theory on Xehanort being reincarnated again and again in a neverending cycle to try to get KH and fail due to the weilder of the Kingdom Key is very likely. After all, this is Nomura, the man who created FFVII. He could easily apply the JENOVA theory to KH and get away with it.

 

Hmm...Interesting theory...Despite that,i don't think that the new bad guys will be leftovers from nobodies,i think that they are gonna be something totally new,most propably a being that has a body and a heart,but not a soul.I just saw that phrase saix was using in khII:Heartless...They go mindlessly collecting hearts,and yet do not know the power they hold.So since baldy was that tough,he MUST have a heart...

 

Okay..... There are so many things wrong with that theory......
One: Why would he want to be a nobody?
Two: Why would anybody be born in his leftovers?
Three: How did you come up with this?

 

Well, it makes some sense.

Except when you think about the MX's little buddy that was summoned in the end of FM+'s ending. If this was the case, then Riku (who looks strikingly similar to the summoned figure in the end of FM+) should have taken form of Xehanort's Heartless (or Ansem, in KH1) because he is far stronger than Riku. And Riku submitted to him. He would have joined with him. However it is a possibility that since Xehanort's Heartless was stronger that he chose to look like Riku.

As for the remembering positive memories, I'm a little confused about that. If that is the case, then isn't eternal nothingness (for nobodies) very dumbfounded and useless? It's almost like standby... it doesn't make too much sense in the case of nobody's, however...

But doesn't Terra eventually move on from his life and die? If this is the case then you're also saying Xemnas/Xehanort can return at any given moment just by remembering Terra, correct? Not sure how that works too well.

Not a bad theory, though. I can tell you put a little thought into it.

My sentiments exactly. If they are trying to get OUT of being a nobody and attain actual hearts, then why would they want to be nobodies in the first place?

I suppose them wanting to be nobodies, then finding out how much they don't like it once they got there, would make some sense. But it's fairly unlikely.

 

He din't wanted to be a Nobody! Ugh, you gt it all wrong! Master Xenahort's leftovers united with hes apprentice before he could die so that he would be reborn and continue with hes plans to conquer Kingdom Hearts.

KH1: MX in heartless form fails to conquer Kingdom Hearts

KH2: MX in Nobody form fails to conquer Kingdom Hearts

He has failed a lot of times, but, since Terra remembers him with some positive memories, he will do all thats possible to make Terra immortal till he gets hes heart.When he gets hes heart, he will destroy all the keyblade wielders and conquer all the worlds and finally... wel... be the ruler of all worlds.

 

What context do you mean by "leftovers"?

Where does it say he wanted to do that? lol

 

By leftovers I mean that when he was defeated part of hes heart, sould and spirit united to form an energy that could control another vessel (new body.

He wanted to conquer Kingdom Hearts to conquer and destroy all worlds, why else he wants Kingdom Hearts?

 

yeah, i have difficulty believing the positive memories theory, will everyone please turn your attention to exhibit A: meleficent (yes i know she isnt a heartless or nobody, but bear with me) she returned due to 'negative' memories from the fairies in yen sids tower. this leads me to believe, while this theory is posible in a way, that nobodies might be able to return due to negative memories
although, now that i think about it, if that were to be the case, then they would come back rather quickly, huh?

 

First sentence wrong. We do not know who won the fight, and it seems that the old man is winning, because he haven't showed even a quarter of his true power yet.

Ansem's Apprentice, Xehanort is actually Terra who lost his memories in that battle. So that is wrong either.

The Old Man is so powerful, he didn't need to taint or control anyone to obtain Kingdom Hearts. Even with his power at the lowest limit, he could've easily defeated Sora and the others without breaking a sweat.

Nobodies fade away into the Darkness and dies along with the heart. So that is wrong either.

If you're a newcomer, don't worry, you have plenty of time to study about Kingdom Hearts, good luck and so on. But if you're veteran, then I'll have no choice but to tell you: You should've known. Go www.kingdomhearts3.org and get to know all you want, because that website is filling with smart and intelligent and dedicated Theorist, and most of the theories there are confirmed.

 

um, im not new, i was just responding to his theory

ive been studying KH for a long time, i know all of that nobody and heartless stuff, as well as how the keyblade works

sry if my response to the theory made me seem new to KH, but im not

and btw, your link didnt work

 

Maleficient returned by the power of its crow´s mysterious powers.

 

Fixed the link. It can be used now.