No Thanks Code vault lost of post counts

If you are not acting, then no amount of looking will make you more active as a member of staff, only as any other member who lurks with or without posting.

A possible interpretation of this message is that he does not want your help, specifically, and that you are being slightly arrogant about your position without doing anything. He probably does not come to you about anything because he believes that you will do nothing. So he goes to someone else with the same position as you to get his ideas to the staff. Does that bother you?

 

There's not always something to do. If there is then he logs in and does something about it. That's how easy it is.

 

Luxord and he tend to disagree on nearly everything that constitus acting, so to Luxord it will seem like he is not acting. Does that make sense to you?

 

There is really no point in being on staff if you don't even post much in your own section. I have heard it a million times that kh hacking is becoming/is dead, so don't use that excuse. So why would I bring anything up to you if you aren't even going to have the effort to log in. If you are going to claim being as active as you say you are then prove it. Actions speak louder than words. So in this case I feel it would be a lot easier to bring this suggestion up to staff as a whole as there is only so much a coder can do. This also saves time and allows other members to voice their opinion specifically because it would affect them.

What?

 

Ah, maybe I am reading too much into it. It seems to me that you are experiencing a values dissonance with EvilMan, and that instead of pointing out flaws in his work publicly, he wants you to approach him directly and ask him to do things instead of NarutoSuperKubii.

 

this is where i get confused again. where is this idea coming from that i don't do anything? i post in the code vault and i moderate there as well. i think there is a misunderstanding: my habits are just that i don't sign in unless there is a post that i want to reply to or something to moderate. it's the same way i am with every forum. and yes, the code vault is a bit dead, can you really blame me for not posting as often as you think i should (because i do make posts in there)?

 

I will ask you NOT to turn this into a personal squabble. The suggestion is regarding posts counting or not. If you have an issue you wish to bring up to a member of staff, do so privately to the staff in question or another member of staff.

Likewise, there will be nothing mentioned regarding personal issues with a member. If this cannot be met, the thread will be locked.

 

Sorry for de railing the thread a bit.

Anyway is there a real reason that posts should count in there?

 

apologies to both of you. anyways, no there is no real reason posts need to count, like i said i am very indifferent to that, i don't care much about post counts. but the problem i have is that the reasons to get rid of them are reasons that can be applied to other sections as well. for example the old threads containing spam, you will find that in every other section as well. another example: easy to abuse code vault to get post count. you can just as easily do that in other sections as well. Help with Life by making up sob stories of life which might not be true or in Kingdom Hearts Help, you can keep spamming supposed help threads. the thing is, i don't see spam posts as being more severe in the Code Vault either so i don't think we should just single it out.

once again, there is no real reason they need to count in the Code Vault, but i don't see the compelling reasons to get rid of them either.

 

Those posting codes, or aiding others in using them, deserve to get something for it. If you really want to get down to it, is there a reason that posts should count anywhere? It's just a number which has little to no bearing on anything, aside from Premium membership. Posts in the Code Vault contribute to the forum, and a post count is a way to reflect that hey, this person is contributing to the site.

As with Evilman, I see no compelling reason that posts should not count in the Code Vault; the section is not dissimilar to really any other section.

 

Well if you look at the people with top posts they have either been here since the dawn of time or post(ed) in the code vault. I am just saying it isn't fair to other members if I can be making 100 posts a day if I wanted to and that is still with me not being here because of school. That to me isn't fair.

When it comes down to it posts in the code vault are very easy posts. It isn't like other sections where you could need to put in a ton of thought into a post. All you need is to ask for something that we don't already have. Actually scratch that people get away with repeat requests.

 

Well...if you stop and look at this for a minute, posts really don't have much meaning in the grand scheme of things. There's not really a bonus after you hit Prem but I digress.

But really, it's not hard to get posts in other sections either, like Kingdom Hearts. I've seen people get a ton of posts added to their count in just a few days, and no not all their posts are super in-depth. But that doesn't mean we should take post count away from there.
I don't think the motivation to use the Code Vault should be post count; if people are legitimately interested in making/requesting codes, then they'll use it. If not, then so be it. It's their choice, there's not really a fair or unfair side to this because we're not preventing anyone from using it.

 

Well yeah I know posts really don't matter besides getting to premium. What I am saying is its not exactly fair to the people who don't post in the code vault. Sure it may be their choice not to post there but some people just aren't going to ever need anything from there. Basically all you need to do is talk about codes in a thread and you can get a ton of posts in no time. Lets say two people are active and you each post in the appropriate threads for each game. That can end up being six or more threads at a time. Six posts per person and per minute and well do the math. 360 posts in an hour is simple to do. These posts don't even need to be that high of quality either. All you need to do is stay on topic and since a lot of things are possible with codes pretty much anything will be "on topic". The thing here is since that is "on topic" and code related the posts can't be deleted because they don't break the rules. It is a huge flaw in the system.

 

Basically, the suggestion is regarding spammy posts. But that's what moderators are for. I mean...it's strange, but the code vault is also a place where people test codes publicly or try stuff out in threads.

I mean, the mod to have a word threshold could work, if set effectively. But even then, there's no full guarantee that it would work as well as it could on the RP arena.

 

That's a pretty stupid argument, no offense. There are people who never post in the Kingdom Hearts sections, should posts be taken away from there? It's up to every person whether or not he/she posts in any section. Unfortunately, the Code Vault is made for people who are into codes, use them, and/or make them. If someone has no want for them, then they won't venture in (for example: me). Other times, they might go in and actually search for the code they want, find it, and not post. The Code Vault is a "hobby exclusive" section and that has nothing to do with the members, the forum, the posts counting, or anything except the nature of coding itself.

Change the rule then. Though that argument could be said about anything.

I have almost 3000 posts and I'm pretty sure I've never posted in the Code Vault. It has nothing to do with being fair to other members because the Code Vault is a section just like any other. It may be lacking in popularity, but the fault of that lies in us, the members, not the section itself. If you want to do something to make the section popular again, try it (I remember when we had the series of videos with Kingdom Hearts characters fighting each other? That was pretty legit).
I don't know how the Code Vault works, like if people keep going in and asking for codes that have already been posted, but if that's the case, then maybe it needs to be reorganized?


As much as I would love to see my rank in the forum go up by post count, I can't see why the Code Vault needs to lose its posts counting status.