Cheating

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  1. Magick ~Meaner then my demons~

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    So I figured this either belonged here or in the general game section.

    Say you're on a hard level, the end of a game. You try and you try to beat this level, but going on a month, you just can't get it. So you go online and watch someone else beat it on youtube. Memorizing the methods used in said video, you go back to your gaming, and after a few more trys and frustrated yells, etc, you beat it.

    Is that cheating?
     
  2. Misty gimme kiss

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    For that particular situation I think it's completely okay, but it's kind of borderline. I mean, you're still technically doing to for yourself, you just needed a little example. Like watching how someone kicks a soccer ball and mimicking it for practice. I admit, I've done similar things before, like looking up the solution to a puzzle in a game I just can't crack or trying to find a faster route in a timed minigame, but it's certainly not as bad as using something like Infinite HP and pretending you beat the game.

    It's kind of like using a Walkthrough/Guide for a video game -- there's nothing wrong with it, so long as you don't rely 100% upon it.
     
  3. reptar REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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    What Misty said, mostly i search up a video of a final fight (or any fight) because i dont know how lol. Some require more than hacking and slashing and it requires some technique that others might not see clearly as others.
     
  4. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    I don't think of it as cheating... I'll admit that on games like Mirror's Edge I had to watch some of the walkthroughs before I knew what I had to do. Be even with that you still have to do it all on your own without glitches or anything like that.
     
  5. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Lol I love how, so far, those who said it's not cheating are the ones who do it.
    To me, cheating would be using cheats, hacks, etc.
    A walkthrough//video isn't cheating so much as getting help. Like Misty said, as long as you don't rely 100% on it, you're good, but I don't think you get the full experience satisfaction from doing it yourself.
     
  6. Luna Lovegood nani panda-kun

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    I do this sometimes, too. I don't consider looking up some things via walkthroughs as cheating. Walkthroughs were my lifeline while playing Jak II. I felt like I was cheating until I read somewhere that the creators said they didn't mean to make the game that difficult. B|
     
  7. The Twin My, what a strange duet

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    What Misty said. I've looked up "Lets Play X Game" on Youtube a bazillion times if I get stuck, because to me it's one thing to read it in a strategy guide, but to see someone actually do it helps me in the long run. It's really no different than going out and buying a game's guide (except Youtube is free, while some guides cost $20 and up).

    Maybe its because I'm a visual learner. I dunno. I've always found those videos a lot more helpful than text walkthroughs anyway.
     
  8. Zyborggian Destiny Islands Resident

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    ... No
    It isn't cheating unless you use a cheating device to gain an unfair advantage in the game.
     
  9. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Previous posts basically sum up my thoughts; looking up strategies is not necessarily cheating, but it detracts from the sense of accomplishment upon completing the task. The "few more tries" after memorizing a strategy are the difference between a little help and an outright cheat; as a rule of thumb, if significant effort is still required to accomplish whatever you're trying to do, you're probably not cheating. After all, you can most definitely watch someone play through the whole of Ikaruga flawlessly, and even memorize their movements frame-for-frame; the question is, can you pull it off yourself?

    Personally, I hate to have to rely on a strategy that's not my own. I like to be able to say that I've done it my own way and succeeded, even if my way is vastly inferior to another way. I also feel that, in games that sufficiently immerse me in their universe, it breaks the flow of the game and makes battles mechanical and boring when you already know what to expect. That in mind, I will look up general tips or strategies that will improve my knowledge of the game mechanics and things like that, but only in worst-case scenarios will I precisely mimic another's methods. Even then, I will usually only do so if the challenge is not my immediate concern, e.g. when I'm playing a lengthy, story-driven game and I just want to bring the story to a close or unlock the "good," "true," etc. endings; or if I don't have the luxury of time, such as when borrowing a game from a friend. I will also occasionally use guides to lessen the tedium of certain actions in a game, such as unit recruitment in Final Fantasy Tactics A2 or item scavenging in Yggdra Union, but again, this is less frequent when I'm not concerned with the story or time constraints.

    Note that any of this can and will be disregarded when confronting a Megaman game. They're just frickin' hard, man.
     
  10. Trussy1000 Destiny Islands Resident

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    I don't really class that as cheating, people use to help each other all the time in the 80's/90's before videos on the net etc... As long as you have fun and don't use anything like unlimited health I reckon it's fine :)
     
  11. Captain Obi vs survivors Destiny Islands Resident

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    I consider this as cheating
    Because
    everything that helps you finish the game with guide or walkthrough video is cheating...